The whistle blower story heats up. Yet another example of stonewalling.

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  1. JakeStarkey

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    "I have never seen bigger taxpayer" [sic] money as well as time wasters" than the GOP Congress investigating Hillary.

    "Self-centered, selfish and shameless" described Trump.

    Trump's obstructionism in this matter will not save him.
     
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    There is no hope for America as long as people like you are compulsively obssessed with one man. It's bordering on a mental disorder. Seriously.
     
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    You have no idea what the whistle blower was trying to do.

    The Inspector General reviewed his (or her) report and found it not only credible but URGENT
     
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    If it deals with members of the intel.

    Who told you trump’s lawyer told him to say that?
     
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    It’s not an assumption...it is what was stated
     
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    What do you expect? They are doing what the CIC wants and expects his knaves to do.

    Oh did you think that CIC means Commander In Chief ?

    No it is Criminal In Chief!
     
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    Of course that is what the CIC expects.
    Criminal In Chief
     
  8. Lee Atwater

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    WSJ: Trump Pressured Ukraine President ‘About Eight Times’ In July Call To Probe Biden
    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...about-eight-times-in-july-call-to-probe-biden

    "President Donald Trump pressured Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky about eight times to work with Rudy Giuliani to investigate Joe Biden, The Wall Street Journal reported Friday."

    "The Ukrainian government acknowledged that call in an official read-out at the time, though the United States government did not."

    Coercing a foreign leader to investigate a political rival!! That's why he withheld military aid to Ukraine. That's bribery using US taxpayer dollars for personal gain.
     
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  9. Lee Atwater

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    "The descriptions of the call provide the clearest indication to date that Trump sought to use the influence of his office to prod the leader of a country seeking American financial and diplomatic support to provide material that could aid the president’s reelection. After spending much of his presidency fending off allegations that he welcomed 2016 campaign help from Russia, Trump now stands accused of soliciting political ammunition from a country next door to Russia."
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...a39b20-dbdc-11e9-bfb1-849887369476_story.html
     
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    The whistle blower story heats up. Yet another example of stonewalling.

    Hopefully it will be as entertaining as the Mueller fiasco.
     
  12. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "On CNN, Giuliani also insisted that there would be nothing improper if Trump applied similar pressure to Zelensky, saying that demanding that a nation receiving U.S. aid crack down on corruption is part of the role of a U.S. president."
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...a39b20-dbdc-11e9-bfb1-849887369476_story.html

    "demanding that a nation receiving U.S. aid crack down on corruption is part of the role of a U.S. president." The not so little detail Rudy neglected to add is the Jackass-in-Chief was doing it for his personal benefit. That makes it an impeachable abuse of power.
     
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    We all know Giuliani is his yes man. All presidents have them. It is very, very common.
     
  14. Lee Atwater

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    Do you agree with what Rudy said? Are you okay with the POTUS abusing his office by using taxpayer money to coerce a foreign leader to do something for Don's personal benefit.
     
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    How can I agree with something someone said out of both sides of his mouth? I don't pay attention to what politicians say, only what they do. Let's get the personal gain out of the rumor mill before we go half nuts about it. Please quote Trump's words from the phone call.
     
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  16. Lee Atwater

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    I don't blame you for not wanting to answer the question.
     
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    That's what Congressional Democrats are trying to get...according to statute law. The answer to the question regarding what the President said on the phone call and it is what the administration is trying to prevent from happening.
     
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    I'll have to view it as a rumor. The democrats should have learned from the last attempt to convict him of something.
     
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    Answer what question?
     
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    View what as a rumor? He's admitted the phone call. Are you questioning the existence of a whistleblower complaint and the blockage in delivering that complaint, by law, to Congress?
     
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    Are you okay with the POTUS abusing his office by using taxpayer money to coerce a foreign leader to do something for Don's personal benefit.
     
  22. Lee Atwater

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    But.......you realize Mueller's report included evidence of multiple instances of obstruction he was prevented from indicting Don for due to the OLC prohibition, right?
     
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    Why do you think the Mueller Report was a fiasco? Have you read it?
     
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    Wrong. Evidence is a starting point, not an end point. He wasn't charged. Pretty hard for me to excited about obstruction of justice in a situation in which there was no crime committed. Process crimes should be void when they are politically motivated. Sorry, not impressed.
     
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    I'll answer when I have verification of what is now a rumor. If there was a quid pro quo then I don't support it. So I will reserve judgement.
     

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