Theory - this abortion thing is a leftist election scam

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right wing pols have nothing to gain from delivering on a decades long promise to their constituents?
     
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    yea, it's silly that people are trying to spin this as a left wing conspiracy.

    Even the leak. The right has more to gain by it coming out sooner rather than later because it gives it more time to be overcome by other events between now and the election.

    I'm not sure what the left had to gain by the information becoming public two months early.
     
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    Rofl, if you arnt making it with this economy, you won't stand a chance come the republican recession, when they try to "reel in inflation".

    Right now everyone qualifies for a raise, or the opportunity to break their glass ceiling. Democrats just put more money In workers pockets. If you think voting republican is gonna fix your situation, then you have not been paying attention.

    Trumps economy was ridding on Obamas coattails, and Bidens economy is riding on Trumps failures. A republican incumbent better have something to run on besides blaming dems, cause Trumps the one who was handing out free money.
     
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    I haven’t seen much if any change in either the generic congressional ballot or in President Biden’s overall approval numbers. I’ve said all along I think after 50 years of Roe, that this issue is already baked in. Those who are avid pro-choice have become democrats, those avid pro-life, Republicans. Those who are neither are more worried about inflation, rising prices, empty store shelves than abortion. Among independents who decide these elections, the economy, inflation is deemed their number one issue, their most important issue in deciding who they’ll vote for. Abortion is number 8 on that list.


    2 May 2020 Generic congressional ballot, RCP averages 46.5-42.5, Republican, 538 averages 45.2-42.8 Republican

    12 May 2020 Generic congressional ballot, RCP averages 46.6-43.1 Republican, 538 averages 45.5-42.9 Republican


    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2022-generic-congressional-vote-7361.html


    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/generic-ballot/



    We haven’t seen any significant movement on President’s overall job performance since the leak either.


    2 May 2020 Biden’s overall job performance, 41.7% approve, 53.0% disapprove

    12 May 2020 Biden’s overall job performance, 41.7% approve, 52.9% disapprove
     
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    You know you're not supposed to use logic
     
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    Well, I suppose if you simply ignore all of the actual economic news, the disaster that is what folks have to pay at the grocery, etc, and if you ignore that Biden continues to artificially wreck the energy sector... oh who are we kidding. The Biden recession is already a thing. Or did you miss the first quarter numbers. I doubt you'll want to try rehydrating this any further though.
     
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    Voter turnout is not going to be a problem for Republicans this year. It never is for a party out of power in a midterm election. They have more to lose because it will likely drive voter turnout for Democrats which would otherwise be very low this year.

    I don't personally think the impact is ultimately going to change the larger wave much either way, but Democrats have more to gain than do Republicans due to increasing Democrat voter turnout in a midterm year when it would otherwise be very low for the party in power.
     
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    It’s a useless promise being that so many republicans are pro choice. Republicans are not voting on this issue
     
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    That particular falsehood has been debunked numerous times.
     
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    Liberals like to pretend that.
     
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    LOL... how much is gas today again? I suppose you think that's a good thing though. so your answer might be a touch biased..
     
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    Why wouldn't pro-choice Repub women (and hypocritical anti-choice Repub women who have abortions), faced with the prospect of the expense and inconvenience of having to travel out of state to have an abortion, be influenced by this issue?
     
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    The question isn't price but rather its cause. See post #38.
     
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    Because they are smart enough to take that extra 5 minutes out of their day to go by a pack of condoms
    As I said. Non issue for republicans
     
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    The cause is pretty plain to see. Democrats wanted gas prices to hurt consumers. Biden started telegraphing that intent early in his administration, initiated EO and other agency policy to make domestic production more difficult, and hauled us into an international conflict. All of those things effected the international BBL prices of oil, and translated into price at the pump we see now. That is the answer to your question. own it.
     
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    Horse ****. Domestic producers are perfectly capable of increasing production. The government isn't stopping them.
     
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    Man O Man; the rabbit holes the post I quoted above is going to trigger will break ankles! :D
     
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    This magic wand of Fiat or "because I said so" seems to be your only defense... Typical.
     
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    It's the exact "defense" that you used. But if you want to play make-believe, go ahead. Just don't scream about "magic wands" when people don't indulge your baseless fantasies. Typical.
     
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    The only news that blames Biden is conservative propiganda outlets such as fox, or patriot xm. The news I watch reports on the reality of what is causing this world wide issue. And it accurate reports that Biden isn't to blame. But don't let that stop you from feeding into the two party blame game.

    Republicans will solve your financial woes right?
     
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    Correlation is not causation. Biden's policies of trying to destroy coal/oil/gas industries is the cause of high prices. But, liberals should be happy, isn't that they want?
     
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    Then one day, when we wish upon a star, maybe, just maybe you can ACTUALLY show how these policies are responsible for the gas prices. One day. It'll happen. You'll see.
     
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    You wouldn't believe it even then, you're too wedded to the leftist narrative.
     
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    Thanks for the white flag and the excuses, but I don't really have room to store any more of either of them at this point. Come back when you can actually explain how the government has made it impossible for oil companies to increase production. I'm sure the check is still in the mail, right?
     

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