Theory - this abortion thing is a leftist election scam

Did you know that Joe Biden was very much against roe v Wade before he did a complete flip due to the political winds?

But your preferred news source will never tell you that

 

What does that have to do with anything?

 

It shows the hypocrisy of the Democrat party. Watch them flip again when they realize they're on the wrong side of the issue.

 

Showing that a political party is hypocritical is not even noteworthy.

I am not saying that to defend anyone, just pointing out that your point is pointless.

 

all republicans have to do then is tell the public differently - why don't they?

 

If it is a Leftist election scam, then why are all the conservatives clapping for joy on the alleged decision with GOP lawmakers going full monty on abortion, woman's health, contraception, etc. Furthermore, other possibilities exist, such as a conservative judge leaking the opinion. An op-ed even argued that Justice Thomas was the one who leaked the opinion because he didn't want Chief Justice Roberts to write it, among other things.

 

Maybe it was a CON that leaked it. This is just my theory. I feel there is nothing about this that makes the right look good, therefore, i believe it came from the left. Notice nobody has talked about inflation much on here the past week, its now abortion, abortion, abortion. It seems to me like the left's plan is working
ahhh, if only they could use their superior brains for POLICY MAKING I'd be such a happy guy

 

It's a total scam. It's inflation and falling wages not abortion.

Further, the 15 weeks of unrestricted abortion is not only more permissive than most of Europe, but it's more permissive than all of France. In short, 15 weeks of unrestricted abortion is not an anti-abortion position, it's a pro-choice position. Only to the abortion absolutists is this an anti-abortion standard. Dobbs 15 week limit to unrestricted abortion is perfectly reasonable and consistent with the view of most of the American People.

But yes, they want to talk about ANYTHING other than their School Grooming, Raging Inflation, Currency Value Destruction, Spiking Crime Rates, Defund The Police and Falling Wages.

Now this is interesting: Major companies remain silent on abortion after SCOTUS leak

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These Woke Virtue Signalling CEO"s usually want to get right out there and shoot their mouths off. I wonder what's changed?

"There has not been any grandiose statements made with the appropriate level of angry" self-righteous "indignation on social media or in interviews. Disney, Walmart, American Airlines, Microsoft, and J.P. Morgan, to name a few, have not made public comments. The Business Roundtable said it “does not have a position on this issue.” The U.S. Chamber of" Crony Capitalists "hasn’t made a public comment."

"Home Depot declined to comment.” CVS Health, which owns thousands of drugstores and health insurer Aetna, said in a statement that it is “monitoring the situation closely and evaluating how we can best support the coverage needs of our colleagues, clients and consumers.”

"We’ll see if this newly-found restraint coming from corporate America continues when the final ruling is released by the Supreme Court."

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You're looking at it wrong.

Most people don't like abortion, maybe that is true.

Hell, I don't like abortion either.

But, if you ask the question, the one that really matters:

Would you favor reversing Roe v Wade?

You'll discover that the answer is 65% maybe even more, favor keeping it.

You don't have to like abortion, but most understand it should be a choice between a woman, her doctor, and her family.

They accept limitations, most accept that, but not get rid of it altogether.

 

15 weeks of unrestricted abortion isn't "getting rid of it altogether"

Roe only guarantees 13 weeks of unrestricted abortion. The 15 weeks of unrestricted abortion under Dobbs is perfectly reasonable and a pro-choice, not an anti-abortion position.

Better late than never: Dirtbag Garland orders US Marshals to protect SCOTUS justices as conference begins

I'm not a fan of McConnell but we all owe him for keeping this Dirtbag Clown Off SCOTUS​

"It took letters from several senators and two governors, but" Molech Dirtbag "Garland finally decided to do his job. Late yesterday, the Department of Justice announced that the" Dirtbag "Attorney General had ordered action taken to protect the security of Supreme Court justices, tasking the US Marshals Service for “safety.”"

"Ordering a personal protection detail should have been a Day One step from" Dirtbag "Garland. When radical activists began publicizing the GPS location data for the homes of Supreme Court justices several days ago, that became a clear safety risk. However, the" Corrupt "DoJ had more tools at its disposal than just a PP detail. The protesters should have been arrested for violating 18 USC 1507, which specifically and explicitly forbids such demonstrations at the homes of federal judges, and for very good reasons."

"In fact, that was the main demand in these letters sent to" Dirtbag "Garland — to enforce that federal law and put an abrupt halt to the intimidation campaign. Tom Cotton’s letter threatened impeachment over dereliction of duty as a result of" Dirtbag "Garland’s inaction. Impeachment might still be warranted." Dirtbag "Garland can expect a lot of hostile questioning over this the next time he has to appear before a congressional committee. Imagine how much worse it would have been had a violent act occurred involving these justices’ families." Dirtbag "Garland has been playing with fire for more than a week, and he’s not likely to escape burn-free." And he shouldn't.

Defense Secretary In The Desantis Administration.​

 

Stats to back up your theory would help.
How many pro life democrats are there?
How many pro choice R's are there?
How about those of us that detest both parties, where do we stand?

EDIT
Here's some stats. The table is much more comprehensive. But since this is a political site, I only copied the political part,

"Pro-choice" "Pro-life" No opinion* Number of interviews
Party ID
Republican 23 74 2 303
Independent 47 47 6 423
Democrat 71 25 4 282
https://news.gallup.com/poll/244709/pro-choice-pro-life-2018-demographic-tables.aspx

For me, it's not about pro abortion.
It is pro choice and a member of neither party. And would not suggest anyone I know to get an abortion. But it's not my choice.

It should not be a gov't decision. Just like it should not be my decision for others.


As for the part of the OP that lies about cheating in 2020 election, that is just flame bait which takes away from the important part of the thread.
That being the breakdown of pro choice vs pro life.

 

They weren't before the trumplicans were seated.

 

So states can impose their own gun laws? Which will you support, State Decisis or legislative supremacy... tick tock...

 

If this was a scam, how did R's not allow an Obama appointee to even get a hearing?
While them letting 3 anti abortion judges get seated under the 2x impeached?

 

Perhaps you just cannot understand the differentiation between expressed rights and unenumerated ones. It's kind of a shame. I blame public education. At this point, you'd expect folks who pay for it should be able to demand refunds....

 

You have a good point.

What you support is highly dependent on two things- your perception of it, and how important you think it is
The concept of distraction and disorder (meaning mix-up the priorities is nothing new to politicians, lawyers, magicians, huckster salesmen and many more, especially those with questionable scruples.
We've been seeing this intensely from the left, the liberals, the progressives for quite a while now.

It's done by manipulating perception, getting people to move one issue to the top of the priority list and promoting outrage over it- which pushes other issues down the list, and reduces the attention we give them.
The issue they push to the top may or may not actually be important to them, but the issues they want to move to the bottom are.... and those are the ones where they seek to hide their culpability and evade the responsibility attached to them.

This is the underlying purpose behind most of the radical issues we have going on today- from the BLM related crap to going soft on crime to labeling children guilty of white supremacy.
Destroy the balanced perspective, the proper focus on what people see and think is important see- and you control those people. Right or wrong is not the issue behind this; control is the issue and objective.

 

Did you know that the Orange Messiah was very much in favor roe v Wade before he did a complete flip due to the political winds?

 

Is that your excuse as well?

 

Yet you avert your gaze to the truth.

 

When you quoted this.. “The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion." Chomsky

It tells everything they need to know about what you value. I know you worship Noam... He's the architect of the Killing Fields after all....

 

Surely some of you are joking. Look ate the votes in Congress, look at the promises of those running for office. Evidence does not support this.

 

which is why I have this theory. Per your words a higher percentage favor leaving it alone so how would this ever help republicans?

 

You're correct.
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e·nu·mer·ate
(ĭ-no͞o′mə-rāt′, -nyo͞o′-)
tr.v. e·nu·mer·at·ed, e·nu·mer·at·ing, e·nu·mer·ates
1. To count off or name one by one; list: A spokesperson enumerated the strikers' demands.
2. To determine the number of; count.
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/enumerated

So explain the difference. I don't blame public education. I blame those who can't support their argument.
Rights are granted by society and need to be granted and enforced by a mechanism within said society.

So, I will await your explanation of the difference from your public education you received.

 

Point A) Freedom of speech for example is an expressed enumerated right.
Point B) Abrotion is NOT an example of an expressed enumerated right.

No where in the document can one find a right to abortion. And the word was "Unenumerated" meaning you either misread or just chose to post this. Disinformation on purpose? Likely.

 

There's no scam.

Both the Republicans and the Democrats are going to capitalize on the fervor over abortion. However, it will likely help the Democrats more this year than it will the Republicans because it will drive voter turnout higher for Democrats, while Republicans being the party not in the White House were probably already going to be coming out in droves. I wouldn't be surprised if the leaker was a left-leaner as it will help them more, but that's not a given. It could easily have been a right-winger that was excited about the opinion or thought it would help.

But either way, there's no scam. The SCOTUS verified the draft opinion as authentic but it still remains a draft opinion and not official.