Theory - this abortion thing is a leftist election scam

An implied right? From where? Equal protection was the argument that RBG suggested should backstop the decision, which wasn't the case. The rest of your argument is erroneous, but at least you tried. I suggest you actually don't understand what legislation is, or is used for. The outcome from an overturn of Roe will simply be that states, legislatures, will make the law, as they are supposed to do. You might not like laws they create. IE, I don't support the legalization of post birth abortion, so, likely, I won't be supporting that by moving to CA or MD. It does give folks a choice. It doesn't require everyone to live with the shame or the horror of the abortion industry, organ harvesting, or other abhorrent practices that states that likely you will want to live in will continue to allow.

 

That depends if we enforce rights we granted ourselves and our enforcement mechanism is in place and functioning.
What do you mean the one's I like?
If they're absolute, folks can't come after them, can they?

How many infringements are the regarding the 'right to bear arms shall not be infringed'?
If that is absolute, there'd be none, zero, nada, infringements.

 

I don't see very many pubs, even the pro-choice, leaving the hills of America 1st, free speech and gun rights to go defend abortion... If this is the plan, I think its doomed. I support abortion staying legal, but I aint voting for globalism, censorship or disarmament over it. Priorities matter.

I'd love a pro-gun, pro-choice, pro-civic nationalist option, but I havnt found any yet, so I'll be picking based on priorities, and abortion aint #1 on my list.

 

You position is that rights aren't absolute or inherent. I just reminded you of your own position, and the outcomes because of having taken it. And now you whine about it. Typical... It also says you can't be harassed or otherwise lose your life and or property without due process of the law. Of course that under this administration seems a right ignored, no? If you, like I, believe that the second amendment is absolute, where is your commentary supporting that notion? You rail for gun restrictions a lot. It appears that your own commentary undercuts your response here.

 

How can an inherent or absolute right be taken. That is the question I asked you.

If any right can be taken, they are not inherent and not absolute. If one uses the definitions of those words.
LOL, you're the one whining.
Due process of the law is an enforcement mechanism. Made up by man to secure rights that society wants to have. They aren't absolute.

If you believe the 2A is absolute, why do we have infringements in our society on bearing arms? Have you tried to buy, legally, an automatic weapon?

I have not railed for or against gun restrictions. In fact, most of my posts on the topic are railing that we have infringements of bearing arms.
What is your view on owning an automatic rifle. We have a huge infringement on doing so.
Same with grenades, LAWs, claymors, flamethrowers, etc. Many arms available are infringed.

Where is my response undercutting anything. Until you clarify your position on absolute or inherent, it's hard to have a discussion.

 

The other post got long.
Another so called absolute of inherent right is freedom of speech.

But we as a society deemed certain freedoms of speech illegal. Such as yelling fire in a crowded theater. With good reason.
Absolute or inherent rights, IMO, shall never be infringed.

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Definition of absolute

1a: free from imperfection : PERFECT… it is a most absolute and excellent horse.— William Shakespeare
b: free or relatively free from mixture : PUREabsolute alcohol
c: OUTRIGHT, UNMITIGATED an absolute lie
2: being, governed by, or characteristic of a ruler or authority completely free from constitutional or other restraint absolute power
3: having no restriction, exception, or qualification

 

Points for obtuse deflections.... I think the words were, these truths we hold dear.. and those then we protect. A world absent respect for life does seem bleak and sterile. I can own a lot of things. Most of the military surplus is still ownable. I find few if any restrictions on those. I understand fear from folks especially on the left of being able to defend yourself from their tyranny leads them to create consensus to create unconstitutional law, perhaps those restrictions are what you refer to. Make a case, go to court, take your case to them.

 

LOL. The definition of absolute is a deflection according to you.

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Definition of absolute

1a: free from imperfection : PERFECT… it is a most absolute and excellent horse.— William Shakespeare
b: free or relatively free from mixture : PUREabsolute alcohol
c: OUTRIGHT, UNMITIGATED an absolute lie
2: being, governed by, or characteristic of a ruler or authority completely free from constitutional or other restraint absolute power
3: having no restriction, exception, or qualification