There is nothing after death

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    death is the doorway to rebirth.... a new beginning....

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  2. Herkdriver

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    The fear of death stems from the fear of ceasing to exist.

    In Buddhism, death is not the end of life, it is the end of the body we inhabit in this life. The spirit remains and will attach to a new body and new life, reborn. This leads the person to be reborn in one of 6 realms which are; heaven, human beings, Asura, hungry ghost, animal and hell.

    The basis of these realms, are according to the severity of ones karmic actions, None of these places are permanent and one does not remain in any place indefinitely.

    Our lives and all that occurs in our lives is a result of Karma.

    Think of this as a spiritual form of Newton's 3rd law of motion.

    Karmic law.

    Every action creates a new karma, this karma or action is created with our body, our speech or our mind .

    If we bring happiness to people, we will be happy. If we create suffering, we will experience suffering either in this life or in a future one.


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    They do if they make a negative claim. What I argue is that if one makes a positive claim and another counters with a negitive claim that both are making claims and as such each is responcible for backing their claim. That is why my position is one of neutrality as making no claim to the positive nor the negative leaves the burden of proof on those who do. The inability to prove the positive is not proof of the negative and vice versa.

    Look, I understand the classic burden of proof but I say it is incomplete as all who make claims need to back their claim no matter if it be a positive or negative claim. The classic burden of proof is not universally agreed upon as a simple Google will reveal. There are some like me that think claims to either the positive or the negative need to be backed by proof. I can't prove that there is or is not life after death so I do not make a claim either way.

    Because I like to keep an open mind to the unknown.
     
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    If we're going to look at death from a purely materialist point of reference...or in another words the physics of death...

    The law of conservation of energy means energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it transforms from one form to another.

    Let's take a firecracker as an example, chemical energy can be converted to kinetic energy.

    Therefore in death, like any other chemical reaction, the energy in the body. 20-some watts of energy courses through your body in life, is transformed to kinetic energy in death. As the Universe is a closed system, this energy never ceases to exist, it transforms into something else.

    Just as you and I were once part of a nebula, and the energy and matter from this nebula transformed into stars, planets and organic life...in death we transform again.

    You see, being "born again" is indeed a viable part of the physics of death. The energy and matter that is "you" never ceases to exist, it transforms.
     
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    You are entitled to your asinine opinion, but it won't affect my participation on this topic.

    Why would anyone be afraid of that?
     
  6. atheiststories

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    Bull...
     
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    It's what you felt before you were born.

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    Then why don't religious people killed themselves?
     
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    You are no longer addressing the argument. You are simply addressing my opinions.
     
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    They do actually. :wink:
     
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    You are doing the same thing. And it would not be that hard to describe the earth without having been to space.

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    I meant all.
     
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    usually they kill others....
     
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    jmblt2000 Well-Known Member

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    No I am choosing to have an open mind and consider possibilities, as I said in an earlier post, I don't know. But I am not arrogant enough to claim my view is the only correct view, pushing my beliefs onto others...wait isn't that what atheist claim Christians do....And no I am not a Christian...MaLakota!
     
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    They don't want to be lonely at the time of death.
     
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    Do you believe in vampires?
     
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    :roflol:

    Gotta love the irony!
     
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    vampire bats exist
     
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    atheiststories Active Member

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    Typical response from someone who just got owned.
     
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    jmblt2000 Well-Known Member

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    Who got owned DA, you asked if I believed in vampires...bats exist, so do leeches...Vlad the Impaler is a historical figure...You have no concept of sarcasm apparently and humor is lost on you...
     
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    Nope. You just realized that it you answered the question you would admit that you do not have an open mind.
     
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    Really? Sorry you died, dude.





    lol @ atheists
     
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    I don't know that belief in an after-life is a necessary component of religion in general, though it is so for Christianity. As for Judaism, I've never understood whether Jews believe in an afterlife or not. I don't think they even agree on this, or even whether the Bible even says there is an afterlife, or even what an afterlife means. (If you want to read some abstruse debates, go to a Jewish forum.)

    The Bible establishes a moral code for living our lives today, as well as all the mystical stuff about paradise, angels, devils, hell, paradise, etc. It's very useful for that even if you think there is nothing after death. After all, the whole world doesn't end when we die ourselves.
     
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    You really have no clue, all legends are based on some fact...Do I believe in hollywood's versions of vampires and werewolves no. Are there diseases that would cause ignorant uneducated people in the dark ages to come to these conclusions. Yes. I have already mentioned Vlad the Impaler which started the Dracula legends but there is also a disease called porphyria, highlighted by a purple tint to the skin and severe skin problems after exposure to sunlight. Look it up and learn something...You just got owned.
    The disease congenital hypertrichosis universalis could be a cause of the werewolf myth as this also causes excessive hair growth across the whole body. The following is a link for you to maybe take a little time and educate yourself and then you won't be DA.

    http://thebrainbank.scienceblog.com/2012/10/31/the-science-behind-the-myths-are-there-clinical-explanations-for-vampires-zombies-or-werewolves/
     
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    What evidence do you have that there's nothing after death?

    How do you know what it's like?


    Furthermore....you say:

    If your death is like a dream you can't remember, then obviously you're saying there's life after death - otherwise, you wouldn't be comparing death to a dream you can't remember. In other words you're saying that we die, but we cannot remember anything about our death!

    If you're reduced to nothing, you wouldn't be experiencing anything at all. There's nothing to contemplate about and no one to be doing any contemplating at all either, because you'll be non-existent! Period.
    You're contradicting yourself.

    Anyway....why do you seem to have this need to reassurance that there's nothing after death?
    If you truly believe that, why do you seem so worried about it?
     
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    Hahahaha....that's a good one!

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    Those who believe in reincarnation won't agree with you. It's your word against theirs. :smile:

    How do you know that bug isn't the kitten you just adopted?
     
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    It's not that something has to " happen " when you die. According to many religions our soul existed before we are born and it keeps existing after death. So nothing really happens.
     

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