There Were 13 Benghazis During Bush Administration!

No one told the troops to stand down. Four guys were ordered to stay in Tripoli because they were needed there and not in Bengazi.

The thought that our military commanders would order troops to "stand down" when they thought they were needed in combat is ludicrous and typical of the bizarre nonsense the RW propaganda will dream up to try to smear the president.

 

Thanks for proving my position.

Everyone can see this is not a vote to go to war, but authorizes the Bush administration to use force as the Bush administration deems necessary, if diplomacy fails.

There is no vote for war. It doesn't say anything about invasion and occupation. It was passed to give the Bush administration leverage against Hussein. As the language you highlighted clearly states, the decision as to whether, and what force, to use, is the Bush administration. And then only if diplomacy failed.

Bush and his neocons made the decision, 5 months later and after UN inspectors spent months combing the country with hundreds of spot inspections and found no WMD, to invade and occupy Iraq.

Not that I blame you for trying to pin this disaster of a war on the Dems. But what they are properly blamed for is trusting Bush. Not that it mattered, the Republicans controlled Congress and could have passed it without them.

 

You are wrong.
[video=youtube;uBVhJfW-j7M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBVhJfW-j7M&feature=player_embedded#![/video]

 

LOL, because a Republican politician says so? What more proof do you need.

Hicks never said they were told to "stand down". He wasn't even on the telephone call. Hicks said they were told to stay in Tripoli, to maintain security there and help with logistics.

I mean, use your brain for a second. Why would Spec Ops command order the 4 guys not to go if they thought they were still needed in Bengazi?

 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stand down

 

Thanks for proving my point this was not a "stand down" situation. Just a typical mischaracterization by conservatives and the RW media.


"Were these guys told not to do anything? No. They were in Tripoli, supporting the U.S. security in Tripoli, and they were told to stay there," Firman says. Special Operations Command Africa leadership told them to remain where they were, and "it was more important for those guys to be in Tripoli."

"I look at that as not so much a stand-down order, as it is a 'stay where you are,'" says Firman. "Those guys met the planes and continued to support."

Firman adds that the C-130 was tasked with picking up the American personnel at the Benghazi airport and leave immediately. These Special Forces troops would not have been on the ground long enough to have contributed significantly to the operation.

"There was a very limited amount of time that they could have done anything," he says.[/I]

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...agon-told-special-forces-to-stand-down?page=2

 

In other words they were told to stand down.

 

No, they were told to remain where they were, as Air Force Maj. Rob Firman stated.

Ambassador Pickering reinforced this account based on his committee's investigation. He explains that a relief plane was sent within an hour of the attack with 2 special forces troops and half a dozen other security personal. They set up the defensive perimeter at the annex. By the time the C-130 was ready to9 take off from Tripoli, which would have carried the 4 other guys Hicks refers to, the people in Bengazi were already secure and on their way or at the Bengazi airport, escorted by about 60 armored vehicles of the Libyan defense forces. Meanwhile the defense forces in Tripoli had been weakened when the troops were sent to Bengazi and the decision was made that the 4 guys were more needed in Tripoli. With an attack having been made in Bengazi, who knew whether there wouldn't be one in Tripoli?

http://thedianerehmshow.org/audio-player?nid=17728 19:05

There was no "stand down" order. It doesn't fit with your dictionary description. Hicks never says it. Both an Aior Force major and the former US Ambassador who headed the investigation explain it.

It's just another RW propaganda smoke screen you all have just lapped up again.

Use your common sense. Why on earth would Special Forces Command order those guys to stay in Tripoli if they thought they were needed in Bengazi?

 

It gave him a blank check for war. {Period, just like Robert Byrd said.}

What part of “Presidential Determination” did you miss?

“A brutal, oppressive dictator, guilty of personally murdering and condoning murder and torture, grotesque violence against women, execution of political opponents, a war criminal who used chemical weapons against another nation and, of course, as we know, against his own people, the Kurds. He has diverted funds from the Oil-for-Food program, intended by the international community to go to his own people. He has supported and harbored terrorist groups, particularly radical Palestinian groups such as Abu Nidal, and he has given money to families of suicide murderers in Israel.

I mention these not because they are a cause to go to war in and of themselves, as the President previously suggested, but because they tell a lot about the threat of the weapons of mass destruction and the nature of this man. We should not go to war because these things are in his past, but we should be prepared to go to war because of what they tell us about the future.” (TEXT FROM THE SPEECH JOHN KERRY MADE ON THE SENATE FLOOR October 9, 2002)

PAY ATTENTION! The traitor said, “The nature of this man,” do you possibly understand what that means?

ODDS, the Odds were the nature of the man. And you told him that the authorization was not an authorization for war. You told Saddam the authorization was limited to disarming Saddam of WMD, right along with that traitor sitting in the State Department, you LIED to him.

There was no “leverage against Hussein” it was a fracking gun to his temple and mealy-mouthed ignorant Democrats and traitors convinced him it was not an authorization for war.

“I would have preferred that the President agree to the approach drafted by Senators Biden and Lugar because that resolution would authorize the use of force for the explicit purpose of disarming Iraq and countering the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.” (TEXT FROM THE SPEECH JOHN KERRY MADE ON THE SENATE FLOOR October 9, 2002)

You personally and every one of your ilk are responsible for every single death in Iraq; you right along with that traitor are the murderer, you are the terrorist, and you are the warmonger.

Until Democrats learn to read, a necessary skill to write effective law, and quit being totally delusional, or are voted out of office completely, there is nothing anyone can do to prevent lukewarm “liberal” arts of war.

Seriously, you disgusting people make me want to vomit.

 

ie stand down.

You acted like you read the definition before but I guess you didn't.

There were more than 4 men ready to go to battle and they were all told to stand down.
http://www.infowars.com/congresswoman-obama-gave-benghazi-stand-down-order/
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It was not a vote for war. There is nothing in the resolution that says we vote to go to war or anything like that.

As I stated earlier, it gave the Bush Administration the authority to use military force, if diplomacy failed. 5 months before the war and before the UN inspectors went in in early 2003 and did hundreds of unannounced spot inspections and found no WMD.

I agree that with hindsight it was foolish and wrong of the Dems to trust Bush with that kind of authority. But it was the Bush administrations decision that diplomacy wouldnt work, it was the Bush admininstration's decision to invade as opposed to some lesser action, and it was their decision to stay and ocupy, all at an incredible cost of lives and money for WMDs that didn't exist and a fabricated "urgent threat"/

You Bush apologists' disgusting defense of him and attempt to pretend this disaster of a war was equally the Dems fault makes me want to puke.

 

Saddam shouldn't of played games like he had WMD's. Hiding stuff he apparently didn't have or stashing it in Syria. Blame Saddam. If he had come clean we would've gone to war with Syria instead.

 

Of course I read it. There is nothing in that definition showing this was a "stand down" order. If a platoon is ordered to stay where they are even though there is fighting going on somewhere, that isn't a stand down order.


From your source:

Stand down:
1) to go off duty

Nope. Never happened.

2) to withdraw from a contest, a position of leadership, or a state of alert or readiness

Nope. Never happened.

Now you're just fabricating along with the rest of the RW propaganda. The battle was over. Not one person, including Hicks, says anyone was ever told to "stand down."

Again, use your common sense. Why on earth would Special Forces Command order those guys to stay in Tripoli if they thought they were needed in Bengazi?

 

Could be. But the Iraqi regime consistently maintained they had destroyed all the WMD. by 2003 Hussein had capitulated, and allowed unrestricted access to the UN inspectors who scoured Iraq with hundreds of unannounced spot inspections and found no WMDs. A petty dictator playing games isn't worth trillions of dollars and scores of thousands of dead people.

 

Is to. This comes from an Army vet, me.

stand-down - a suspension and relaxation from an alert state or a state of readinessstanddown

 

We lost face to his flaunting this (*)(*)(*)(*) in front of our faces and us not doing anything about it. It makes others feel empowered where they think they can get away with this (*)(*)(*)(*) too. We needed to use him to teach everyone a lesson on how not to (*)(*)(*)(*) with us.

We fought the war wrong. We should not have given him 2 months to prepare. We were lucky he hadn't sabotaged all the roads in. We shouldn't have stuck around afterwards. Go in, kill the enemy, then leave. Who cares who takes over as long as they know we'll do it to them too if they (*)(*)(*)(*) with us.

 

Why is it that Obama supporters' best defense is now comparing him to Bush? Not exactly a winning argument for gaining support.

 

When did the Bush Administration lie about the causes of these?

 

Proves my point. There was never an order to relax from an alert state or state of readiness. Never happened. No one ever told anyone to "stand down." It's RW fabrication.

Again, use your common sense. Why on earth would Special Forces Command order those guys to stay in Tripoli if they thought they were needed in Bengazi?

 

Because the Islamist terrorist in the White House told them to.

 

When did the RW media and Republicans ever demand an investigation as to how there could 13 separate incidents were brave, heroic Americans were killed in foreign outposts while Bush was president?

I suppose with people dying every week in the "mistaken" war in Iraq it didn't make the news cycle.

 

Thank you! That is absolutely where this whole RW motivated investigation ultimately stems from.

A bunch of nut job birthers who think the President is a Muslim terrorist.

Now all objective and reasonable people see where this whole nonsense is coming from and where it ultimately is based on.

This whole thing is nothing more than "Birther part II" brought to you by the same morons who have been pushing that BS.

Thanks for helping me shine the light.

 

Just points out the rank hypocrisy of the birthers who think our President is a Muslim terrorist who are behind this whole thing.

 

Point out the hypocrisy, by being hypocrites?

 

How so?

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