This Cosby bidness

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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bundy gave an 11th hour interview.This was in Florida,because that is where
    he mounted his Girls Dormitory rage rapes.He informed the person who interviewed
    him a very special look inside his mind as to what attracted him to Females.
    He said it was Girly mags.That got his mind ticking and then helter-skelter.
    Which literally means there could be a helluva lot worse kinds of perverts out
    there given the monumental ease of Porn on the Internet and the extent of the
    Porn perversion { Kinky sites }.
     
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    Why would anyone care if a stone-cold killer apologized or not. If they do, it's just empty words, totally meaningless. These killers don't have a conscience - they are not capable of feeling remorse, empathy - they feel NOTHING. Why would anyone want an apology from someone like that? I wouldn't. The only thing I'd want to hear is 'he's gone and now on his way to hell'.....

    It's Gacy, Bundy, Rader and all the rest of them is the reason why I believe in the DP, but they need to speed up the process since they get to live another 20+ yrs b/c they have their 'right' to file appeal after appeal after appeal.....
     
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    Yeah, it's scary, but it's very COMMON for stone-cold killers and rapists to act like just 'one of the boys'. Psychopaths/sociopaths are not stupid, they are quite intelligent and they know how to create a very likable & charismatic image of themselves and pros at manipulating people.....
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is of utmost import.It is directly attributable to one's state of mind.
    Obvioulsy Serial Killers are psychos.But do they truly believe that their
    actions have no consequence in the afterlife.And if so then were they born with
    this lack of conscience and thinking process.Or a Bad Seed.Where madness can often skip
    a generation.Making it that much harder to spot in life.
    I see where Gacy had an autopsy and they kept his brain for study.
    To see whether he had some identifiable liasons which could trigger an aggressive
    madness.He didn't.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think yer off base here by quite a lot.Serial Killers are not by any means
    " normal ".And it is not easy for them to go Unnoticed and act like one of
    the boys.Because a Serial Killer would laugh and joke about or not joke
    about a range of abnormal things.Eventually a Serial Killer would find it hard to
    develop lasting friends.Because a Serial killer would necessitate being either
    a Sadist or a Masochist.There is no way around those displacements.
     
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    People w/no conscience don't BELIEVE in the afterlife. Life is just all about themselves. That's who they believe in - themselves. They're lacking a conscience, but why would you think they lack a thinking process? Their thinking process is always on track and it's always about "me, me, me, I, I, I".......they're not capable of loving anyone, not even their own children.....

    One sure way to spot a sociopath/psychopath is when a child and I don't mean a toddler, but a kid around 7-9 yrs old and they enjoy torturing defenseless animals. The parents better do something fast like getting him to a good psychiatrist.

    I don't know if my bio mother lacked a conscience per se, but she certainly lacked the primal instinct that most mothers have to love and protect her children. Later in life, I found out that women like that do exist......

    Do people like Clinton, Cosby and their kind who rape women have a conscience? I don't think so. The pedophile priests who rape children certainly don't. For all of them, life is only about their own sick sexual gratification and nothing else.....when they're caught, they'll weep and cry and boo hoo! They're sooooo sorry.

    They're only sorry b/c they were caught!
     
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    Where did I say serial killers are 'normal'? I did NOT b/c they're NOT.

    I said they're intelligent, they know how to 'fit in', they know how to create an image of themselves that's appealing to others, most have charismatic personalities that draws people... they can do all this, but in no way are they 'normal'.........

    How do you think Ted Bundy, The BTKiller, Gacy, ALL of these killers managed to do what they did and for so long? Because they knew how to blend in w/people and appear as normal as everyone else.

    It took the authorities YEARS to catch the Green River killer - a married man w/a bunch of kids.

    I do believe Cosby is a serial rapist and look at how well he pulled it off until someone snuck open a file that had been sealed after a woman filed charges of rape against him and when he admitted he bought drugs to drug women for sex.....and no, he's not normal. He's just a good actor like the rest of them.......
     
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    This kind of psychoanalysis { determing Serial killer traits } was years in the
    making.But now it's definitive.We now understand that a good majority of Serial
    Killers displayed animal cruelty in their life.Sometime pervasive,Like Dahmer.
    I think it is not a stretch to assume Serial Rapists also have some identifiable traits.
    Like Bedwetting or abuse as a child.Are intelligent but do poorly in school.
    Hate toward a parent.Or a domineering Mother.
     
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    Of course there are the abnormal cases like Serial Killer MOM Marybeth Tinning.
    She killed 9 of her own babies.She suffocated them.The reason was smack dab
    in front of everyone.She craved all the attention and tears with every dead baby
    funeral.That was it.She thrived upon Funerals.Which may seem odd but in fact
    is a normal human undertaking.How many people insist they refuse to have a
    funeral.It is too depressing and brings back old memories.
    Catholics like to drink at the Reception afterwards.It might merely be an excuse
    since a lot of Catholics are boozers.I,not being an exception.
     
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    Watched "20/20" tonight.....a jaw dropping expose' of Cosby told by many of his victims.

    One of the black male actors on "The Cosby Show" was also interviewed. Don't remember his name - doesn't matter and he was a regular - said as time went by on the set, there was a sense of something not quite right - to paraphrase him - w/many beautiful women showing up and many weren't interviewed for parts at all. Of course, they were left alone w/Cosby.....

    A very revealing show......
     
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    He should have his day in court but....... It's not just one or two woman or a couple of people claiming he is a predator - there are like 20 woman and numerous people claiming this guy is a sexual predator...

    Allegations are one thing but all these people coming out?

    I would be reserved if it was just one woman but 20?

    Too bad Cosby is too old to serve the appropriate amount of time for what he did...
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was not relieved to hear the Fox legal eagle cuties { Kimberly Guilfoyle and Lis Wiehl }
    talk about the pending Cosby Trial.They acted like the guy had a really good chance
    of getting off scott-free.Depends on the Judge and the Venue and we're back to
    slick lawyerly games.There's a chance his past Civil Cases will not be evidenciary.
    With Todays Judges { especially in Liberal California } being SO utterly
    PC { look how fast Same-Sex marriage was overturned by the states via Activist
    Judges } that it begs the question.What the hellfire kind of Ameica is this.?
    One thing is sure ... Fat Albert shore nuff won't be heard a peep out of.
    I think Hollywood might find a way to scrub every TV appearance The Cos ever
    made.Which is purdy overwhelming.
    I think he may be paying a price already.His Face has literally turned :
    Toadish
     
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    No, Mc, it's not 20 women - it's now 51! The last one came out recently. This what I mean by I believe in 'truth in numbers'..... there's no way alllll these women decided to destroy an American icon if he was a truly kind and respectful person, who never harmed anyone....that doesn't happen b/c it goes against all logic.

    Another interesting aspect to this is what the black male actor, himself, said during the filming of he Cosby show was the .... to put it in my own words, the vibes on the set, the cast members knowing that something was going on that wasn't good when an unknown beauty was taken to Cosby's dressing room and left alone w/him.....

    Men aren't stupid. They can pick up that instinct as much as a woman can.......
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh fer cryin' out loud.You act like it's the first time you heard about some
    shady Hollywood Producer or Agent.Or some B Actor/Actress with a history of
    sleeping around.Alfred Hitchcock was once slapped right in the Kisser on the
    Set by Tippi Hedron { The Birds and Marnie } because The Hitch used to sneak in
    little pinches on her bubble butt when she was wasn't lookin'.
    Errol Flynn was a flat out sexual deviant.
    Charlie Chaplain was banned from being in the U.S.
    Bing Crosby was a closet abuser { Beat Gary Crosby every chance he got }
    Used to be The Only way an Actress could get a part and make it in Hollywood
    was on the Directors/Producer's couch.
    You act like this - Cosby Bidness - is some new thing in Hollywood.
    It's been goin' on since Fatty Arbuckle { one of the most popular Silent film
    stars who also discovered Buster Keaton and Bob Hope.Mentored Charlie Chaplain} .
     
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    Aw geeeez! Here we go again! The guy obsessed w/Hollywood strikes again.....

    Look, I'll try to make this short by using one of your examples - Hitchcock. So you're comparing Hitchcock who pinched a star's butt and got slapped across the face to Cosby whom, so far, 51 women have come forward and said he drugged and raped them.....you SERIOUS? .......yeah, you would be.

    Had any of the above created a public image of themselves where they represented and preached about morals and blah, blah, blah like Cosby did for years? Probably not - right? Which means they were what they were and weren't hypocrites about it.....

    Now I may be wrong about some b/c I never lived my life needing to know everything about Hollywood and the actors b/c I had my own fascinating life to live.....
     
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    Show me where The Cos as much as was called out on the set of any Cosby TV
    show for pinching a women's butt.Because he didn't.He was extremely careful.
    I remember Ray Bradbury on a - Politically Correct - segment.He was talking
    about the zaniness of todays PC culture.That in his day,not to long ago
    it was standard for a young man on an elevator to occasionally pinch
    the fanny of some hotsy-totsy floozie standing real close.It was no big deal.
    Most bachelors proilly did it at one time or another.Not Today however.
    Bradbury stating that he actually Harassed his wife until she would date him.
    That was kinda how it was done back in the day.You harassed yer soon to be wife
    and Made her like ya.Today just saying you'd like to pinch that gals butt will get you
    jailed.
    That was Then ... This is Now.
    Bill Cosby is from the Then generation.
    Dig Daddio
     
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    What are you going on about? YES! We ALL KNOW Cosby never pinched a butt! He wasn't interested in doing a much lesser offense like that - he was into drugging and raping women behind closed doors as all of his 51 victims have said! Geees!

    Yes, we all know in the days gone by that men would pinch butts, sneak a hug, make suggestive comments, but that's now against the law and it's called sexual harassment.

    When I worked at the Red Cross and had a bunch of volunteers working for me, they complained about this one male volunteer who wouldn't leave them alone - pinching their butts, asking for hugs & kisses. I told him I was going to give him just one warning - "Stop it or you'll have to leave". He did it again and I told him to leave and don't come back. I had explained to the 75 yr old horny old goat that would not be tolerated, he was setting us up for a sexual harassment lawsuit, but he was living so far in the past and tho't he should be able to do whatever he wanted. What does any of this have to do w/Cosby and NOW?
     
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    I git such a kick out of Yer Type.Such an expert on Cosby's every move.
    When he Rapes,Why he Rapes,How he Rapes.As Introspectively a know-it-all
    as whatever federal enforcement agency determines how much sugar is
    permitted on a donut.You have provided about as much Info that pertains to
    reality as Obama's 2014 SOTU address.There is no proveable Reality regarding
    certain crimes.Or at least very scant.I provided in my OP what I thought was the
    nail in the coffin as far as I,a former admirer of Bill Cosby, was concerned.
    Right there was a seminal moment in the attitude I thought about Bill Cosby.
    That he would say such a cruel thing towards Peter Lawford on the porch of
    the Playboy Mansion.Obviously with some chippy at his side.
    Your repeated nauseauting Bill Cosby talking pts. are getting really old fast.
    I get it.Like at a Bakery store shop and the next number to be served is ... Number 57.
    Face it ... You are getting boring.At least Perry Mason was seldom boring.
    Or Miss Marple.Much less Agatha Christie.
    and by the way ... The Real Life British Serial Killer John Christie was a tough
    nut to crack.He stuck to his story till the end.Was quite reserved and shy the entire
    time.Unlike a man about the same height { Phil Spector } who drank like a man
    committed and always wielded a gun.Wore Wigs as if that helped much.
    Bill Cosby obviously needed no wig or TV props.Cept his infernal sweaters.
    Or Sweatshirts.I haven't a clue as to what might have been a ' Cos ' telltale
    sign.There is almost always telltale signs from serious Abusers.
    That is what I am after.Like in the movie - Altered States - { 1981 }
    " The first self.A real,menusrate,quantifiable thing.And I'm going to
    find the Fucher. "
    Find the Cosby,mensurate thing, and Maybe you reach a conclusion.
    Until then ... talk is less than cheap.One can teach a parrot to talk.
     
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    Lol~ nowhere did I even hint I'm an 'expert' on Cosby's every move. I've simply been saying that 50, now 51 women are not lying.....

    But whatever you want to make of my words.....that's ok.

    I will say I'm tired of reading about every movie filmed, every actor born when it has nothing at all to do w/the topic......
     
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    Again your not up to the task of qualifying let alone making a case against Bill Cosby.
    It takes far more than some rehashed Liberal Talking pts.I can get far more
    scholarly details from some Convenience store tabloid rack.
    I beat you 7 ways to Sunday,last weekend and proilly 9 ways today.
    You have little to offer this OP other than the usual suspect drool.
    There's a reason talk radio and alternate media are having a dramatic effect.
    They talk and reason ... Truth to Power.
    If Bill Cosby is as guilty as you say ,.. then prove it.
    We all saw how O.J.Simpson walked away a free man,because of city slicker
    lawyers { Dream Team }.Bill Cosby has greater funds { More wealth by far } than
    O.J. ever had.It's gonna take a lot more than Beer Talk and Tabloid Journalism to
    take him down.Right now ... I don't know what that is.Surely nor do You.
    Or even Prosecutors.If there is a Bill Cosby smoking gun out there,it hasn't even
    remotely reared it's head.He Said,She Said is old hat.
    It may require actual Video of Bill Cosby mauling a victim.Or forcing a
    lady into a room.Something.
     
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    What?! I don't 'have to make a case' against Cosby or be 'qualified' for anything to simply express my OPINION, which I'm entitled to do and I'm going to do it!

    It's up to [B]51[/B] ladies to make their case and w/a pit bull attorney, Allredd, I'll bet you any amount of $, they will win b/c those 51 ladies are not lying.... they have the TRUTH on their side and people who are smart enuf to realize there is no LOGIC for 51 ladies to conjure up a horrible lie that would destroy a man who had been their friend, if he had actually been one!

    Not to mention the fact that Cosby had admitted in a court hearing that he purchased drugs to drug ladies for sex.......you keep ignoring that.
     
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    Citing Gloria Allred,the prototypical Feminst ambulance chaser does not
    a case make.Nor some atomic clock counter on the number of new Cosby
    victims.What it will take is hard,identifiable evidence.Again not
    some ... He Said , She Said.That is never gonna work.Times and places
    is a start.Witnesses for those who claim victimhood.Can a Victim cite a reliable
    witness who'll swear they can substantiate a claim of rape.
    Maybe a Doctor or someone respectable in a community with a lot to
    lose if found fudging on facts.When was the last Cosby rape allegation that was
    substantiated.Is there any forensics to back it up.
    How many times do I have to repeat.This is tricky bidness.Any forensics is
    probably long gone.This isn't an unsolved murder.If there aren't any photos or
    Videos then what has the Prosecution to go on.Just a Victim and a She Said,he Said.
    Maybe a witness to verify some state of a victim afterwards.
    This is in no way as easy as you are making out.In fact,damnably difficult.
     
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    I never once SAID it would be 'easy'.....why do you keep making stuff up?

    The sexual assaults on these 51 women goes back thru the decades, so of course, there wouldn't be any forensics and doubtful about any witnesses, but these women can still get their justice b/c - as you keep forgetting - BC had stated in a court hearing that he purchased quualudes to drug women for sex. And that's a good START.......

    Even if Cosby never goes to prison for his crimes, he's finished and will go down in Hollywood history as one of the worst sexual predators.
     
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    Usually, I would agree with you. This time, not so much. Of course she preps the victims on what to say, how to act, and what to wear. That's part of defense.

    No, everybody did NOT like Rader. The community, particularly pet owners, hated him.

    And no, he did not know the Oteros before he killed them.

    He got caught because his daughter willingly gave DNA. And his wife (and entire family) immediately left him and the scene, disappearing into oblivion. They did what decent people do.

    There was no trial. He admitted guilt from the get-go.

    Camille Cosby is an old woman who has nothing but Bill. She's his business manager. Without him, she's absolutely nothing. In spite of that, I believe she stays because she knew all along what he was up to, and possibly believes he will be able to put this behind him. He was making a bit of a comeback lately, doing club appearances.

    I noticed tonight watching the Golden Globe awards, Gervaise made fun of Cosby. I can't remember the joke, but it was funny at the time. Gasp-worthy, but right on target. His clan (Hollywood) has pretty much turned on him, I think. Those who might still support him are keeping pretty quiet, except for the morons on The View.

    Yes, he's innocent until proved guilty, but the preponderance of evidence is HUGE! Being a female who worked in a male dominated field back in the 60s and 70s, I believe the women and see exactly how it happened.
     
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    Ok - I stand corrected abut the BTK case. I remember reading he was well-liked, church goer and all that.... and do remember reading that the judge granted the wife a divorce immediately, so she & kids could leave.

    Yeah, those women are telling the truth about Cosby. There just isn't any logic for them to gang up and lie about someone if he had been a decent, respectful friend to them......and in cases like this, I do believe there's truth in #'s and the # here is so far - 51. The depraved SOB needs to be in prison for the rest of his miserable life, but probably not.
     

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