This Cosby bidness

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  1. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is such a thing as - Burden of Proof - which happens to have been the CNN
    Show Greta Van Susteren hosted along with Roger Cossack.Yes, Fox's Greta
    was and still is a Liberal.She was guilty of Interviewing Joran van der Sloot and
    cutting him huge slack.She gave the guy every benefit of doubt imagineable.
    She was wrong to do that.Like Geraldo { another Fox liberal } was in
    siding with City Slicker { literally his hair his Greased back } Joe Tacopina who
    took up for Joran and was seriously thinking of being his Defense lawyer until
    Joran fled the States and decided to act like a Con on the Lam.Eventually
    Murdering someone.
    Joran was known to brag around school of his latest conquests.The way he
    would get Girls tipsy at a favorite drinking spot that Served him alcohol,no
    questions asked { Carlos'n Charlies }.After getting girls tipsy he would spike
    their drinks { slip em a Mickey } and then go about the busness of finding a
    place to Conquer { Rape } them.
    Joran was never really taken to task.Maybe it had a lot to do with his wealthy
    Family and his *Father being a substitute Judge on the island.

    Paulus van der Sloot who was training to be a judge,kept pleading on behalf of his
    Bratty son { Joran } " without a body the police have no case ".
    In this Cosby Bidness -- Without a credible witness and any forensics there is
    No Rape.
     
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    Well, you just keep right on defending Cosby..... and of course, reciting every case imaginable of other low-lifes, as tho someone else's crime proves your point - which it doesn't.
     
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    No way am I defending Cosby,Just stating the Fact's Ma'am.
    Now after the O.J. verdict I swear that not long after Geraldo wrote a
    book with a Title something like - How the O.J. Verdict was the Correct one -.
    In fact I seem to recall Geraldo hawking that book on Larry King Live.
    Nothing ever came of it.I can't find that Book anywhere.But it was typical Geraldo.
    He's a Lawyer and good friend of Fox's Jeanine Pirro.I really thought highly of Miss
    Pirro and was crossing my fingers she could beat Hillary for that Senate seat.
    But Pirro mysteriously dropped out of that Senate Race.It was because her hubby
    was under Indictment.Pirro was the former Westchester County DA.
    Having read the Book - A Deadly Secret - about true life Killer Robert Durst.
    It was a fascinating case the way this Rich guy from a connected family evaded
    both the Cops,the press and legal troubles.Jeanine Pirro figured large in the
    true crime case.I learned that Pirro actually has a Bigger ballbusting ego than her
    buddy Geraldo.2 peas in a pod.Pirro tried to manhandle the Durst case.
    Wanted all the press and glory of the case to swing her way.She was a Control
    freak when it came to the press and taking credit for a case.I never knew that
    about her.
    Geraldo gets a kick out of making an ass of himself over his predictions of
    cases.Especially the Casey Anthony verdict.I was all over that case
    and knew/suspected things about Caylee's strange disappearance that didn't
    add up.
    I coinsider myself as good as Perry Mason when a big time case hits the
    masses.There's really nothing much I can add about the Cosby case.
    No one beats me on a case once I get going.
    I have little if anything to go on regarding Cosby.
    I guess I'm more a Murder case guy.
     
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    Another reason I'm a bit gun shy about getting involved with this Cosby
    bidness is the Jerry Sandusky case.It turns out the entire Country was
    hoodwinked about Sandusky.It was a Mainstream media narrative.
    Talk Radio guy John Ziegler made a video about it.Still talks
    about it.The MSM won't even dignify what John Ziegler can prove.
    Similar to the way this MSM acted toward George Zimmerman vs.
    Trayvon Martin.As far as the MSM was comcerned it was cut & dry.
    Zimmerman stalked Little Trayvon and murdered him.As if Trayvon
    was a model student just walking home with some skittles & Iced tea.
    One of The biggest Media con jobs in History.
    It turns out Jerry Sandusky was also a Media con job.There's a reason
    Joe Paterno didn't react to Jerry Sandusky.Because it was never established
    that he was some Pedophile.All it took was one guy who stated emphaticaaly that
    he saw Sandusky in the showers with some boy{s} doing something physical.
    Turns out the the 2 key witness in the Sandusky case are con artist who took home
    around a Million bucks for ratting out Sandusky.Joe Paterno was hounded and
    forced out at Penn State and his record scrubbed as well his University
    plaques and statues.They have just been Reinstated.Paterno was used as a
    stooge in order to make the public believe Sandusky out to be a sexual Monster.
    It was a hoax.Sandusky was a convenient fall guy.They needed to harangue
    Paterno in order to make it seem Kosher.
    Look up on YouTube - The Framing of Joe Paterno by John Ziegler.
    It makes complete sense.
    because this MSM is doing this kind of thing now all the time.
    They did it with Trayvon Martin.Then Michael Brown and finally
    Freddie Gray.Also NBA Owner Donald Sterling.
    Look how the media treated a wonderful Family man { Mitt Romney }
    as some Uncaring,selfish Country Club Fat cat.
    While Guys like Liberal actor Sean Penn escape most scrutiny when he
    goes and Interviews via role as Rolling Stone reporter of a major
    Most Wanted Man { El Chapo }.
    This is the Stalinization of our media.It is being replaced by a Politburo mindset.
    It was how Obama was never vetted in 2008 and many things were deemed
    Off Limits.
    Therefore I find it very uncomforting to believe,lock,stock and barrel what is
    reported by this media.Especially by the Tabloids.
     
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    Having just bought the *movie { $5 at Wal*Mart } and having seen on TV
    but not well enough to detect subtleties of the Alaskan " Butcher Baker "
    it is now the norm.Serial Killers seem to causally get away with their
    Modus Operanti.Which is so odd and out of sorts given the immense popularity
    of the - Judge Judy Show - which personifles No Funny Bidness.
    Back in the day of Perry Mason,at least the guilty and somewhat guilty weren't
    crass and unbelievable liars.They were convincing liars.
    But since this country has well over a Million Lawyers and most Lawyers
    are in a lobby that Kowtows towards a political persuation then no wonder.
    Like what we saw in both the OJ Trail and Rodney King verdict.
    King having passed,since he won a judgement of well over a Million bucks { $ 3.4 }
    which was enough to drive him to an early death.
    Knowing all this and also that Bill Cosby can afford most any legal counsel
    and has a huge defense similar to Robert Hansen the " Butcher Baker "
    or being an " upstanding member of the community ".


    * - Frozen Ground - The shocking true story of Robert Hansen.
     
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    Groundhog day has finally arrived for the Cos .He'll finally have to do more
    than rear his head like some skittish groundhog with a Mommy complex.
    We may never get to his actual complex. I learned from the short story
    Beverly Johnson told to Allison Samuels for Vanity Fair.
    She was invited by Cosby's handlers to a taping of The Cosby Show so she could
    get a feel for the show and what suitable role she might play.She met the entire cast
    and then had a talk with Cosby in his office about her " career going forward ",while she
    made note of the hell she went thru in her marriage.She had an Ex-husband.
    She went to another taping and was then asked by Cosby to meet her that weekend
    at his home .She went with her daughter and was treated to a tour
    of the New York brownstone and a nice brunch served by Cosby's staff.
    He invited her back in a few days to read for the part.She returned the following week
    late in the afternoon where Cosby's staff served a light meal.Cosby then proceeded to
    walk upstairs to his large living area which featured a massive bar.Plus a brass
    espresso " contraption ". While Cosby wanted to see how she handled different type
    scenes,he suggested she pretend to be drunk.He fixed her a cappuccino from his
    contraption which he insisted was the best model on the market and that she'd never
    tasted a cappuccino quite like this one.She already told Cosby she never drank coffee that
    late in the afternoon.Not wanting to offend or argue with Cosby she took a few sips of the
    brew.She knew instinctively having been a top model in the 70's ,when drugs and partying
    was all the rage and did her fair share of mood enchancers.
    " I knew by the second sip of the drink Cosby had given me
    that I was drugged -- and drugged good. "
     
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    OK,here's the deal as far as why Bill Cosby was in Court today.
    As opposed to decades ago.It stems from a Court case in 2005
    and criminal charges leveled against him by Ex-Temple University
    employee Andrea Constand. Former DA in the case { Bruce Castor }
    had to maneuver around a strategy.Declining to prosecute Cosby in 2005,
    due to lack of evidence and also how Constand acted.Not exactly like an
    abused rape victim or even a spurned woman.So Constand sought a civil
    case and damages.Billo Cosby testifying for 3 days in a deposition and then
    settled.The Civil suit now settled on undisclosed terms and sealed in 2006.
    However that wasn't the end of it.
    Since excerpts of that Cosby deposition were released before a statute of
    limitations was due to expire ... many other women { dozens } have sought Justice.
    The New DA of Montgomery County { Kevin Steele } decided the time was right
    { Just before the statue of limitations was due to expire } to file charges.
    Steele intends to press the case against Cosby that the former DA felt
    unwarranted and highly improbable.Using that Cosby Deposition.
    Nevertheless that does not end the matter.
    Supposedly the former DA advising Cosby's accuser { Andrea Constand }
    made some plea " No prosecution " deal in 2005.Castor would NOT prosecute
    Cosby based on his giving a court deposition.
    However ... the New DA { Steele } made the case this afternoon that the
    deal former DA { Castor } made with the Cosby team in 2005 was never written
    down.That any Immunity deal between the DA and a person facing court should
    have been written down and agreed to by a judge.

    Again I go back to Judge Judy.You come into her court unprepared and you
    lose her ability to decide in one's favor.No Police Report or caught Lying and
    you lost 50% of yer case right there.
    Caught Lying in Judge Mathis's court and you lose probably 70% of yer case.
    This is why getting Bill Cosby or most wealthy charged on the stand is improbable.
    Wealthy folk get off because we have a flawed Justice system that favors high price
    dream teams like what OJ used.Did OJ ever go on the stand.
    Did Phil Spector.
     
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    OJ is a killer, ironically he was sentenced to something like 12 years in prison for stealing his own awards....

    That Van der Sloot guy is clearly a serial rapist and killer considering he was a suspect in a murder before Hollaway and then was convicted of the murder of another woman after that...

    Cosby has only been accused of rape by 20+ woman - he is a rapist....

    Should Cosby get a fair trial? absolutely - how many tho? 20? the guy is (*)(*)(*)(*)ing like 85... No point now.... All he has to say is that his brain is "Jello" (no pun of course lol)...
     
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    OJ is sitting in Prison not because he stole his own awards { Heisman ? Wedding ring }
    but he had a pistol on his person when he busted into a Las Vegas Hotel room and
    demanded his stuff back.It was established as Armed Robbery.
    OJ was accompanied by a few " supposed " buddies.
    I don't buy for a minute that the Judge could have sentenced OJ and one buddy
    to life sentences.OJ did get 33 yrs. and is up for parole after serving 1/3 rd.
    OJ's judge was a Female Hanging judge.She had her own TV Judge show of sorts.
    She was nutty in love with ability to divvy out extreme justice.
    That judgy wudgy being Jackie Glass.A real ballbusting uppity elitist.
    the show was ... - Swift Justice with Jackie Glass -.
     
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    Bill Cosby may have been seen laughing as he entered the Philadelphia
    { Home to both Cosby as a Kid and his alma mater - Temple University - }
    courthouse today to listen as what decision the Judge will make in regards to
    any dismissal of his 2004 alleged rape allegation.In 2005 Cosby and his legal
    team managed to make a deal with then DA { Bruce Castor } as to Immunity.
    Immunity from a criminal trial,not a civil trial.There was a civil trial.The details
    and settlement remain sealed.
    However today the new DA tried again to convince a Judge that that previous
    2004-2005 Deal that former DA Castor made was secretive and effects a wealthy
    defendant to Buy his way out.Which obviously is what Cosby and his lawyers
    did over 10 years ago.
    New DA { Kevin Steele } urging the Judge this morning to ignore Castor's actions
    and let the criminal matter go forward. " There is no legal authority allowing a
    District Attorney to unilaterally confer transactional Immunity on a defendant. "
    The Judgy Wudgy appears to have agreed.
    No matter that Cosby's attorney Christopher Tayback used the reasoning " a promise
    is a promise " line of defense.
    This all stems from last summer's explosive unsealing of the Cosby Civil
    Trial deposition he gave and how Cosby admitted to having prescriptions for
    Quaaludes in the 70's that he planned to use in having sex with women.
    A Damning indictment of admission that Dr.Huxtable was a possible
    sex-crazed stalker of woman who used drugs to soften them up before
    his conquests.
    Exactly the MO of now jailed killer Joran van der Sloot.
    Cosby now faces the ramifications of a Criminal Sexual Assult case instead the
    dismissal his lawyers were preparing for.
    If found guilty on all 3 felony charges of second-degree aggravated indecent
    assault { man talk about a charge Fat Albert } Cosby could get up to 10 years in
    Prison.At his age that's a Virtual death sentence.
    There was a time not too yore ago I might have felt a little pity for the famous
    Icon.But knowing the number of woman coming forward and his MO { he without
    their knowledge drugged woman into semi-conscious states }.
    I knew a few galsy in me heyday that didn't drink because they were afraid of getting
    a little woozie.Some men,also.But to knock them out like a Prize Fighter
    near unconscious is really a Bad person.
    Serial Killers do that kinda stuff.Like John Wayne Gacy and Jeffrey Dahmer.
    Maybe Cosby watched too many Film Noir as a kid and thought it cute to
    slip a mickey into a person's drink.
    Makes no nevermind now.
     
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    You do understand when you sell your stuff it's not yours anymore?

    OJ (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up numerous times.....

    Indeed it was armed robbery, and he got his so I'm happy with it.

    Here is a hilarious fact about OJ - he was considered to play the "Terminator" in "The Terminator" but James Cameron was like "naw, OJ is too nice of a guy, no one would believe he would be capable of murder" lol....
     
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    I keep going back to an early Simpson movie where he plays a Bus Driver and
    he keeps calling this young teen girl " Sweets ".
     
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    And really, Folks, this is the problem. Cosby is an actor. That guy you admired is a character in a story. Go ahead and admire him, but do not confuse him with the actor who played him. Cosby is not obliged to play that character 24 hours a day for the rest of his life.
     
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    Funny how actors can sometimes be held to being human,also.
    Unless you have a problem with that.
    I do Duhclare that before The 'Cos was an actor he was a human being.
    A court of law does not give a Hootenanny one way or the other about acting.
    You mean,this may come as a shock to you.The number of Hollywood actors
    whose entire lives were ruined because they broke the law in some sexual
    context.Does the Name Charlie Chaplain or Fatty Arbuckle ring-a-dinghy.
    Some like Errol Flynn managed to hire good lawyers and publicist and got off
    scott-free.Some like Roman Polanski are still banned from entering the United
    States unless they want to go Straight to Jail.
     
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    SO WHAT?!

    So far, 51 women have accused Cosby of drugging them and sexual assault. Now that's quite a record..........

    As far as Cosby being a 'human being' - he's one of the very worst.
     
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    Where were those Women all these years.You mean The 'Cos was more
    feared than a Governor { Bill Clinton } and then Slick Willy as Pres.
    I'm pretty sure Gloria Allred could have gladly taken on the 'Cos.
    I don't buy all these Toots coming out from under their Rocks.
     
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    Well, that's your perogative to not believe them, but I question the integrity of anyone - and I don't mean just you - I mean anyone who will believe 1 guy over 51 women........

    It's been discussed b/f about women being seduced by a powerful or well-known celebrity and they feel they have no one to go to, no one would believe them and they're intimidated by his position of power....

    If you can't understand that, then you don't understand it.......

    All it takes is one women to come forward and the others have the courage to follow and that's what happened w/Clinton and Cosby cases,

    And NO, I don't want to read about a dozen other celebrities and their sexual scandals......well, I just don't read it anyway.......
     
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    J-E-LL-O....

    Why does this serial rapist get so much compassion?

    Yea, I would ask questions if one woman made accusations but 30+?
     
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    Last count was 51.......and 99% of them didn't know each other. Around a month ago or so, I saw several of these women interviewed on 20/20. It was sickening listening to what he did to them.....

    One was a young gal who was aiming for an acting career, had bit parts, etc, never met Cosby. She was living w/her mom and one day she got a call from him, him saying he'd seen her on something and asked her if she wanted to meet him in Vegas where he was, and he'd give her pointers on how to succeed in Hollywood. She was thrilled to think the famous, 'kind, loveable' Cosby wanted to help her.

    He kept her in his hotel room for 4 days, drugged and raped. He finally let her go home and she said she couldn't tell her mother what had happened to her, she told no one. Gave up her dream of acting and turned into a mess........when she heard that someone blew the whistle on the pig, she came forward and told her story.
     
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    It doesn't matter because the rapist is 80+ he will be dead before he ever sees "Fat Albert".....
     
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    I agree, they most likely wanted to use him for personal gain themselves, they just did not know they were gonna be the ones being used (if true of course, which looks like it is to me so far)

    pretty sad case, they had no choice but to keep quite or lose a chance to fame

    he was lucky none of their fathers at the time found out.... he may not of been alive today

    .
     
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    True.... but I hope b/f he croaks that he is convicted and dragged away in chains. For 99% of these women, their statute of limitations ran out, but there's .... I think she was 17 when he drugged/raped her and believe she still has hers......

    I don't think there should be a time limit on reporting rape..

    I really hope his victims get some justice and him being exposed for the pig he is and prisoned would do it..........
     
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    He wont serve a day ..... All he has to say is: "I'm an old man - I don't remember"

    The guy is indeed obviously a rapist but he will get away with it....

    With the right lawyers a trial could take 3-5 years, then with appeal, perhaps 5-10 years...
     
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    Fresh, not ALL of these women ended up famous or even well-known. The young gal I talked about where he called her inviting her to Vegas to 'help' her get a start in a career, gave up her ambitions....

    Even if they had 'used him for personal gain', they couldn't have possibly hurt him like he did them.....

    During that 20/20 interview, I found Beverly Johnson's story quite interesting. She's a beautiful, well-known black model and she knew BC for yrs, considered him a friend.

    One eve he called her and invited her over, she went and he gave her a cup of coffee. She said the minute she took a sip, she immediately felt 'loopy' and knew what he had done. She looked at him and said 'you're a real motherf*****, aren't you?" She said he got mad, dragged her out of his apt. and pushed her into a cab, sent her on her way.

    You see the diff b/t her story and others who were drugged?
     
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    You mean it's as easy as the way Penn State Joe Paterno got snookered.
    Had his unbelievable College Football record partially scrubbed and his College
    Statue removed.Turned out Joe Paterno had no idea about the " Supposed "
    pedophile { Jerry Sandusky }. It was all a Media Driven news cycle.
    Jerry Sandusky had NO record as an Abuser or a Pedophile.All it took was one
    asst.football guy to spread some lather about how he Once saw Jerry Sandusky in
    the shower with a young boy doing something.Go to YouTube and hear what media
    Radio Talk host John Ziegler thinks of this.It was entirely made-up.The Media ran
    with a bogus rumor and Piled on.The public bought it ... hook,line and sinker.
    Ziegler was lambasted by the media for daring to challenge their bogus reporting.
    No different than the way the media reported George Zimmerman,Michael Brown {Ferguson}
    and Freddie Gray.With a pack of Mainstream media Lies and rumor.
    Or how Obama got away with the Bergdhal swap and Fast & Furious and the insane
    Benghazi excuse of a Video_Obama was never asked if he ordered a Stand Down.
    So I'm supposed to believe this Corrupt media when they push a Cosby is guilty
    narrative.All I have to go on is what I stated in my OP.
    The time Bill Cosby walked into the L.A. Playboy Mansion with some chippie
    and mocked acted Peter Lawford who was on his last legs,literally.
    I never knew that side of Fat Albert.
    In today's world anyone can say anything.That proves nothing.In fact it's
    called heresay.Ever watch Judge Judy.
    Heresay is Never allowed.
     

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