Thousands rally against Israel in Istanbul

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  1. Gilos

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    Boo hooo, one cannot cry on diminished borders when he denies them himself.
     
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    The entire world says you lot violate the Geneva Conventions by ethnic cleansing across the borders to make your jew colonies. The boohoo part is on you Jews with Israel, your homeland, being a paria state and among the most hated states of the entire world.
     
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    Arab nonesense, we are doing great while your countries get consumed by your own hate and stupidity, ask the world to cover you with with their love and support, see if it means anything.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You fabricated a statement and then call it 'stupidity'. On that we can agree. But I'd prefer you respond to statements I make rather than having your own internal debate.
    No you didn't. You made a list of your beliefs and didn't supply any evidence to support those beliefs. They are ridiculous, btw.
    Another emotional outburst. Please calm down and use some verifiable facts

    No, I'm familiar with the argument but using Hitler as a source has added complications. Certainly Hitler said many of those things in public, in order to console the sceptics, but in private his feelings were quite different.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

    Hitler and his hatred of Jews has more in common with the teachings of Islam and the actions of Muslims than do any Christians.
    In fact whenever I look in the mirror, which I do as frequently as possible, all I see is love, beauty and truth.

    That has noting to do with the question I asked. And it was really a very simple question. It was "You feel an international caliphate might bring peace to the world?" You responded with some sort of gibberish completely unrelated to the question I asked.
    I'm not faniliar with the name, much less getting advice.
    It's becoming clear that you don't care to read up on anything, to do any sort of investigating as to history or even check up on some well known facts. So no, you don;t care about 'what's mentioned where', which makes you a rather uninformed, and obviously unhappy person. You have your foolish and immature beliefs to rely on and nothing more. You know less now then when your mother introduced you to the world.
    Another internet tough guy, huh? You'd be quite surprised if you ever tried talking with me like that in other circumstances. Muslims often use violence as their fallback position when their ignorance is being exposed.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Motivators made more sense.
     
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    hey lighten up! Celic fans take discrimination very seriously....and occupation. They have experienced it all themselves.
     
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    Celtic fans strongly support the Palestinians. They have in their history both occupation and prejudice. They know what it is like.

    Edit: though I only put in this post because the one above did not appear to be in. Nonetheless that is what it is. Genuine shared experience. Though I am sure you are aware of this with all your monitoring this is also beginning to happen between oppressed people throughout the world - for instance black Americans and Palestinians.;)
     
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    No, it got more to do with socialism, chaos and a general contempt to the authority of each and in every nation they operate in. flies drawn to ****....
     
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    Black Americans are being 'oppressed'? How so?
     
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    Gilos I live here, I am even half Irish and this does not have anything to do with what my Government tells me. Glasgow Celtic people hate prejudice. That is because they know what it is like and also because their history is one of occupation - and also fighting occupation - meanwhile Protestants in NI, the occupiers love you and even believe they are one of the lost tribes!!


    and as I said now others are getting together. Political activists in Ferguson said the people who gave them the most support were.....the Palestinians. Big bond there now.
     
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    And yet they are drawn to 'Strong men', dictators of every stripe who they feel will get some control over life's vicissitudes and they can have numerous strict rules governing societies which are more understandable to them. Freedom can be messy, and lead to many disagreements and discomfort for those who need more structure in their lives.

    That's what attracts them to Islam. The rules are set in place and everyone must follow those rules, no matter how anti human being they might actually be. Their imagination and inventiveness may be stifled but that's a trade-off these people seem to be willing to make.
     
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    I see you are directly descended from him
    Your Great Model would, of course, have put them in nice pacific gas chambers for aggressive breathing!
     
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    Is this your idea of 'debate'? Leftists have lost whatever reputation they once had, seemingly overestimated, for original ideas and how society and culture might be improved. Now they're reduced to Nazi references, probably the easiest and laziest response any sentient human can make.
     
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    Ok I missed this. I have got this information from Finkelstein but his work seems to be well researched.

    The straits were shut he says 17th or 18th May....but they only remained shut for two or three days. After that they were quietly letting boats through.

    Israel only used them for oil and she had months of supplies. Hence really no problem to Israel, plenty of supplies and they were in any case only shut two or three days.

    The argument according to him was political. For a start the Israelis had always been concerned that the arabs would find someone like Ataturk who would bring them up to the First world 20th C. Nasser seemed such a person to them. He believes the 56 war was partly, on behalf of the Brits as well to get rid of Nasser, to keep the Arabs down.

    So Nasser made this song and dance about closing the Straits and Israel thought 'who is he an Arab to talk like that'....but you know what there was a bit more to it than that. Egypt did not agree these were International waters. They believe they belonged to Egypt and had been having arguments with Israel over this. Before closing the straits for 2 or 3 days he offered to go to the International Court of Justice for adjuration. Israel said no. Finkelstein says because they believed you do not go on an equal footing with an Arab - you know these backward people.
     
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    Those 100 students in Ferguson, self identifying with the Palestinians, isn't having the international impact they may have been hoping for.
     
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    Reported. You are sick.
     
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    Outstanding line.
     
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    What complete garbage from a poster that offers nothing of value. There are irish elements who attack Israel due to the long-standing irish catholic church's anti-semitic stance, nothing more.

    Second, dishonest posters like you whine about "oppressed people throughout the world" - yet are UTTERLY SILENT about minorities that the muslims are genociding/slaughtering/ethnically cleansing like the Yazidis, Coptics, Maronites, Chaldeans, Azerei, Bahai, Maneachans and others.

    Why is that? Or will you come up with some other lie/deflection like usual?
     
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    What is sick are people who lie that they "support oppressed people" yet say NOTHING about what the arab muslims are doing to non-muslim minorities across the mideast. THAT is "sick."
     
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    That's hilarious - the fakestinians try to latch themselves on to ANY "cause" they can to try to promote their fake one. The fakestinians have zero legitimacy in educated circles, and will continue to be the laughingstock and whipping boy of the rest of the arab muslims and World.
     
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    They said in 1948, in 1967, in 1973, in 1982 and thousands of times since they will "destroy all the jews and drive them into the sea."

    The general public isn't even listening to these people any more.
     
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    You'll speak to me with respect or don't speak to me at all.
     
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    We disagree.
    The straits were closed and only ships with papers indicating they were heading to Aqaba were allowed to pass.
    Have a nice day. You may have the last word. ;)

    One can always find a reference to support their view. ttfn
     
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    Whom? The Israeli Jews? They've been thru it already.
     
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    Curious... reported for... what? :shock:
     
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