Thousands rally against Israel in Istanbul

Quote as you like.
I'm 69 and remember the history.
I remember the U.S. refusing to sell Jet fighters to Israel or only in limited quantities while similarly aiding Arab nations. I am sure you can find some quote otherwise, but I remember.

The 6 Day War and NIXON changed the geopolitik of the region and how America related.
Previously, Arafat's forces could drop a grenade into an Israeli kindergarten then flee across the nearest border and Israel. Any pursuit by Israel was scolded by . After the 6 Day War, Israel did pursue, said nothing and host nations shut their border to fleeing PLO killers not wanting to face Israeli pursuit on their turf. Lebanon being the weakest became their preferred border to escape across.

BTW remember Egypt closed the Strait of Tiran to Israel, May 22, 1967.
90% of Israeli oil passed through the strait. Other commerce too.


And what did the U.N. or do about it?
After June 5, 1967, it did not remain selectively closed.

And that's the way it was

 

Another entry bereft of thought, perspective, knowledge or interest. You must be jealous of those who get to enjoy their lives without sticking their asses in the air five times a day.

 

So thanks for the confirmation.

Oh and he did all that against the popular desires of his people.
Especially the clergy.
True.

What would we discuss on a Turkey thread?
All things Turkey. Culture. History. Current events.
Maybe Enver Pasha.
Shall we?

Best Wishes

 

Of course you don't understand, which is what I was saying, and I don't expect you to understand.

The civilised world is interested in Muslims only because of their penchant for violence - and to find a remedy to stop it - but would not generally look in their direction for any innovative thought. Repeating passages from the Koran doesn't contribute much at all to the sciences, for example, or any other area where creative thought is required.

 

Here you go.
In the Middle East forum
http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/all-things-turkey.511622/

Politics by Region
Middle East
All Things Turkey

 

Regardless of your memory and indeed whether you are right, the US was behind Israel in this war. There is absolutely no excuse for the liberty in that Israel would think the US was any danger to her - it was not even a war ship. Without question the US was on Israel's side though this was possibly due to Russia's involvement making it a thing of the US versus Russia. Israel had been visiting the US discussing it. The US however did not want Israel to attack first and did not want her to go on a land grab. That was the important thing. Israel said she would not attack first and was not on a land grab but this was not so. The attack on Egypt was done by blocking access to US airways in I think the US embassy in Israel - but wherever they were, wherever the US could pick up what Israel was up to when she attacked Egypt was blocked. The Liberty however moving into the region was something else. Israel was wanting to take the Golan Heights as a land grab. The US did not want it. It is the most likely reason for the attack on the Liberty. The US was on Israel's side at that time and would for instance have passed on information from the arabs if it had heard any which would help the Israelis....and also would have supported Israel if she had got into difficulties with the Arab States and indeed if the Russian's had attacked which was why Armageddon came near.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secularism_in_Turkey
Maybe you shouldn't shoot your mouth off when you don't even know your own country is suppose to be secular according to its Constitution. It might not be so today, but that certainly doesn't mean I don't know the meaning of the word. Don't worry, I sure don't need any 'education' from the likes of you Turk.

 

I think Judeo-Christianity is the scum of this world and I think that's the main reason Muslims and other Religious groups are suffering today.

Genocidal French killed 2.5 million Algerian Muslims. Americans killed 1.5 million in Iraq only, their Israeli partnership through ISIS killed more than a million in Syria so far. The toll in Afghanistan is pretty much unknown other than manipulated numbers. Israel killed 510.000 Palestinians so far. The Dutch and Belgique, massacred thousands of Africans and are responsible for the massacre of over 8.000 Bosnian Muslims. Greeks killed "millions" of Ottoman Muslim Turks on the islands and in the Balkans during the Balkan war. Armenians are responsible for killing at least 500.000 of innocent Turkish women, elderly and children villagers whose men were fighting against Russian occupation during WWI, resulting their own ""just"" deportations they stupidly cry about. Americans armed Iran against Iraq and Iraq against Iran and are responsible for the lives of another "1.5 million Muslims".

German NAZI bastards killed tens of millions of people of all races including Muslims only because of their sick fcking Judeo-Christian beliefs. They today want to kill Turks and Muslims in mass numbers.

I'm not even touching how Judeo-Christian sick fcks conducted planned genocidal strategies against "TENS OF MILLIONS of" American Natives, Shinto Japanese, Filipinos, Vietnamese, Cambodians, Guatemalans, Laotians, Salvadorans, Nicaraguans, Cubans, Aborigines, Taters of Scandinavia whom slaughtered by the Norwegian state's official program for "racial hygiene", Kenyans, Indians, Congolese, Ethiopians, Angolans, Namibians, and so on...

Summed up to more than 150 million people in less than 2 centuries, all killed by western countries, who were, and are still today motivated by their sick JUDEO-CHRISTIAN belief system, I say highly significant amount of JUDEO-CHRISTIAN society must be disciplined for the good of humanity. The ones who resist should be treated as they have been treating other racial, ethnic and religious groups: Bombed, then massacred in mass numbers, and then gathered in camps, to get electroshocked, hanged, gas chambered, tortured, killed, buried randomly in mass burial sites, then made soap out of their leftovers to have some memory of them.

That's an effective way of having peace on this heavenly planet.

We don't need our world ruled by demonic Christian symbolism like stigmata, virgin birth, son of the Lord and stuff... Those are Ancient Egyptian pagan bullsh.t...

Jesus never even existed, that's a fact. But Moses?

No... It was Minos... Then Mises... Then Manou... All together formed the Transbullsh.tting belief in which you are allowed to rape a little girl as long as you are able to pay 50 shekels for each... If you're rich enough, to say earn 500 shekels a day, then you can rape up to 10 girls a day... Damn... This sick belief system is ruling global society today... No good....

 

Then it's better for you to not vote because you mess up bigly.. Maybe you're not eligible and you don't even know it.

 

No, thank you for your confirmation that such weak knowledge can blunder at the speed of light when fail to address justly what """revolution""" might come to mean... I must admit tho, wasn't expecting this fast of a fall...

Let's go I said, I already started with a personal question to get to know each other a little better since we're gonna talk for a while there. lol...

 

Pffffffff.... Really? OK then:

You said this because you think conservative groups gathering to rally against Israel with anti-Zionist slogans "mean Turkiye is not a Secular country"...

I replied following 2 in 1 post to make it clear that you "don't know the meaning of SECULAR" :

You might not say so but I think to say a country is "not secular" just because some far-rights using their "democratic rights" gathering to protest some wrongdoing in other parts of the world is beyond being retarded.

Secularism is protected by the Constitution, so as "Democratic Rights" of rallying and protesting any country.

You will be educated as long as a Turk like me would like to do so... Better get used to it or start educating yourself before making absurd and laughable comments like:

"Oh I thought Turkey was secular mama, waaaaa... "

 

So why are Turk's showing such solidarity with Palestinians then? From my link:

You seem to feel insulted that Turkey is exposed as not being such a secular country after all. But that is just your Muslim bias showing through.

 

I mean I know JUDEO-CHRISTIANITY is absolutely SICK but this is a little beyond where that is at...

Really?

Is Canada not secular because its anarchists show "solidarity with Palestinians" ?

hahahha... Made my day... Damn...

 

Deflecting, completely ignored the rest of the post, because you can't win the debate. Your view of Jews and Christians is dully noted, Mal.

 

Oh you mean GEOPOLITICS? Where are you from anyways?

Hmmm... Interesting... Very interesting... :

 

Calm down Mal. Take it easy now... Everything's going to be just fine...

It's like this:




Because the sharks must sneak in without no problem:




Scottish Celtic fans are showing middle fingers to the thieves of the Middle East:




And you're saying Scottish are not "secular" and they are "radical islamists" because of their shown solidarity with Palestine...

Just breathe Mal... Count to 10... hahaha...

 

This is a public internet forum. I can respond to who and where I want - when I want. Don't like that? LEAVE.

NO ONE cares what you think or want. This is a public internet forum. Your concerns or desires are of no interest.

The 1.5 MM massacred/genocided Armenians in 1915 were unarmed civilians, just as the Kurdish villages are that erdo has indiscriminately bombed using gas the past several years.

 

Cartoons cannot make up for your complete lack of an argument, facts or rational debate.

 

I say again, criticism of Jews will get you banned. To me, Jews (as well as other religions) are male genital motivators.

 

I have begun to wonder how accurate some of the large figures being quoted by NPR and others really are, considering their political orientation and the difficulty of confirming such numbers in many instances.

In any case, this post of yours is in itself sufficient to support Trump's stance regarding limiting immigration to the US from certain countries.

 

You don't mention which other groups are suffering but if it's a result of Judaeo-Christians that would be news. As mentioned it is the Muslims who are murdering members of other religions through terrorism and the FLN in Algeria committed similar acts. This terrorism is being carried out in countries around the world.

That's false and you have no support for such a claim.

Also false and without substantiation. In fact, as usual, it was Muslims murdering other Muslims which was the biggest problem.

Again, no evidence.

Again you offer no evidence for any of this but if you believe this to be true I could understand how your emotions could run quite high. Unfortunately Muslims are frequently fed large portions of horsedung as a result of censorship, and their rigid and hateful educational programs. It should be stopped..

Germans Nazis had "Judeo-Christian beliefs"? Where did you learn this? In fact Muslims aided the Nazis and they collaborated against the Allied forces.

You know nothing of these issues. Try to move away from the Islamist indoctrination and look to other sources for your information and personal edification. You'll be a better person for it.

That's a lot of hate you have there and all of it through indoctrination, probably beginning at a very early age.

You feel an international caliphate might bring peace to the world?

You may be right, though the teachings of Christ to love your neighbor and 'do unto others as you would do unto them do unto you' seems harmless enough. Does Mohamed have any similar advice?

In fact Jesus is mentioned in the Koran more than any other person, certainly many times more than Mohamed, who is mentioned only a few times. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam

In fact it was Mohamed who is famous for having a child bride and that practice is still being carried out in Islam today.

I appreciate your honest response but would appreciate some supportive evidence to back up some of your claims.

 

Censorship only hides these opinions from view and then can never be debated. I'm pleased there is no interference from the politically correct here who would only drive these ideas and deep-rooted feelings underground, where they're suppressed until finally released through violence.

 

I suspect that there is enough blame to share around with other major countries. Even the Indians would war on each other. Long standing hatreds make it impossible to ever truly know peace, unfortunately.

 

How special! Another group of people to focus their attention on. Historically, Turks have been such great citizens of the world and think they are in a position to advise others.

"Hi, my name is Turkey and its been 6 months since my last massacre!"

 

Thanks for your excellent responses.
The "'67 War" was indeed a long planned Israeli land grab with which the US was complicit (Operation Cyanide) in spite of Israel's deliberate massacre of American servicemen.
Not only did Israel initially use unmarked planes but they even strafed lowered US life rafts to ensure that there would be no survivors and that the US would blame then attack Egypt(1).
Additionally, Zionist factions in the US government were and remain deeply involved in the cover-up.

The following is an interesting aside and supports your assertion that

"USS Liberty: Operation Cyanide: Russians to the rescue"
https://sites.google.com/site/onedemocraticstatesite/archives/uss-liberty-operation-cyanide

EXCERPT "The top-secret plan was known as Operation Cyanide and was intended to result in the sinking of the Liberty with all hands, to be blamed on Egypt and exploited to permit the bombing of Cairo and the entry of the United States into the war on Israel’s side. The Soviet Union’s relationships with Arab countries would have been damaged and perhaps cut, with America and Israel seizing control of all Mid-East oil production. Israel’s borders would have expanded from the Nile to the Euphrates Rivers. "CONTINUED


(1) "USS Liberty Veterans' Association"

https://www.usslibertyveterans.org/