Time for men to walk away from women.

It's always an option not to partner up. Basic problem of us men, we are deluded by our hormons and blinded by actual beauty. We lack the insight into the inside (nonono, nobody wants to see how food is digested and find its way out, neither when it comes to men nor to women, I mean the personality in addition to the optical appearance) and the vision how a woman will look like in 20 years,

Especially for normal men and women difficult to assess, it's easier for criminals who are doing this Bonny and Clyde thing. Nothing makes a partnership more intense than sinning together plus its the ultimate test. But I dont have the guts to rob a bank.

 

I'm a feminist and I think its fine for men to stay single. Just like its fine for women to stay single. Especially with the current divorce laws which unfairly target the higher income earner and child custody laws which I will freely admit are getting better but are still skewed towards women unfairly. Personally, if I was a guy, I wouldn't go anywhere near a woman that wasn't financially independent for a serious relationship because if you divorce a woman like that, you could potentially be screwed with alimony laws....I tell my career female friends the same thing...don't go near guys that don't make fairly equal salary or that are in debt. I think the OP may think that men staying single is threatening to women in some way...it isn't. Women are now earning higher level degrees in greater numbers and are starting to equal out workplace inequity....so most women don't feel the pressure to get into relationships for financial stability. Its actually a nice thing if you get into a relationship with someone who complements you and isn't using you for money. If you can't find that...by all means, bang robots...good choice.

 

The issue is many men are seeing college as a bad deal and a minority can get by living a minimalist lifestyle working part-time or few hours at a job and other might go on to a trade but will a college educated woman in a high powered career date let alone marry a plumber. Let alone a man working thirty hours a week getting by living in a shared apartment with second hand furniture if lucky and who just is happy living like that. Colleges are not man friendly hell schools K through 12 are not man friendly with more and more educators women and those running the schools women. And more and more men are raised by single mothers. How can a man learn to be a man with few men in their lives day to day? And the career issues and shift in the workforce does heavily favor women most of the people in the science if one includes medical fields and genetic science, biology, botany and such are women the fields they are not in are small where men are is a superior position such as physics. Business and other fields requiring college favors women. MGTOW is happening having by men slowly being displaced.

 

First, men aren't being "displaced" men...what's really happening is that women are being more represented. Men are about half the population...and women are the other half...so the workplace is becoming more reflective of where gender diversity should be. When you're used to being at the top of the heap all the time, equality and fairness for others might feel like discrimination to you. And there's no doubt that because things are becoming more equal, that's going to come with a lot of struggle in restructuring gender roles. Change always takes readjustment....sometimes its not easy. But that doesn't mean that change isn't needed or that the change is negative.

Second, I agree with you that that children need representation from both gendered parents. In divorce situations, child custody laws should make it fair (50/50 custody splits) for both men and women to parent their children. Right now, there is a bias towards women that needs to stop...men have equal rights to parenting their children...and even more importantly, children should have equal access to both parents. In addition, men need to stop walking away from raising their children....you can't blame all single woman households on women...often times men don't want the burden of parenting. Men need to put pressure on their brethren and stigmatize those that don't take care of their kids.

Third, I think the divorce laws...particularly with regard to alimony need to change. Everyone can work...both men and women. So there's zero reason why anyone should be financially dependent on anyone else after divorce. The reason I wouldn't marry with someone who didn't make as much as I did is only because in the event of a divorce, I don't want to be financially responsible for someone I wasn't with anymore. And that's the only reason...money wouldn't matter to me otherwise...I can support my household by myself.

Forth, MGTOW is just a movement of bitter, angry, extremist men making blanket dumb rules instead of finding logical, reasonable ways to deal with change. I think there is a similar movement on the female side. I'm a feminist...a real one....I believe in equality and fairness for both men and women. And I have a wonderful husband who's my partner in life so I know how well partnerships can work. Both men and women have so much to contribute and together are far greater than the sum of their parts. But there is massive change happening in social, education, career and family structure and its going to require a change in thinking and laws (divorce laws, custody laws, employment laws, etc). The way to react to that isn't by freaking out and getting angry at the other gender and blaming them for everything. I'm a feminist and I love and respect men...and men need to love and respect women. Women are not the root of all evil and neither are men...and anyone movement that promotes that concept is just stupid.

 

Most college educated women I have met after will after a few years of gold digging will take what ever they can get, their clock is ticking and will run out and they know it.

They are too smart, to be smart by half, many lack any life skills and even fewer nail a high paying job and then there's that ticking clock inside of them.

 

Going on 37 years now and still loving it.

 

Maybe then it's time to find yourself a real man to live with.

 

Many of whom will continue mining and might bring home a nugget of HIV to share with her current BF.

 

What is with all the hatred of women? Is it just because some men get so tired of being rejected that they just get mad?

The data is showing that many college educated women just aren't interested in marriage or long-term relationships at all. Nothing wrong with that. My eldest daughter has zero interest in getting married...she's focused on her career. Doesn't mean she doesn't like men...she just doesn't want to commit the energy/time to a relationship. Nothing wrong with that.

 

Most of them wouldn't be rejected if they had an ounce of self esteem.

Too many older boys have convinced themselves they are not worthy of a female's companionship.

 

I'd say that older men who are fit, have good careers, have a thriving social life, and are masculine won't have any problem getting women.

 

I don't even think being fit matters. I have a TON of single friends...their main criteria for dates is 1. someone who's funny and makes them laugh and 2. someone who's really polite and 3. someone kind to other people. I think women are looking for men who smile and have some charm. If a man seems angry and bitter, he's probably not going to do well in the dating pool and should honestly stick to robot dolls.

 

Honestly, I think there is a little more to it than just being funny and nice. There are a lot of nice guys who aren't very successful at dating and most guys try to be funny and nice when dating.

Appearance does matter. For example, on okcupid tall men receive several as many unsolicited messages as very short men. Dating is just a very visual thing.

 

Initially, but kind, charming, funny people can always overcome that. Listen, I'm female...and I have a lot of single friends and family. Women are attracted to certain things up front, just like men are...but ultimately, its really all about the person. So a rage filled ranting male just isn't going to do well with women. If you're trying to just get laid, maybe the way you look is all that matters...but if you're trying to form a long-term relationship, there are far more complex factors.

 

i believe you've unwittingly solved the centuries old crisis of the middle east... invade them with sexbots, programmed to profess their undying desire to please them and to not take no for an answer... i can envision the maddened terrorists begging for it to stop, but we'll keep sending new sexbots , hourly, if necessary...

 

I do believe that personality is a big part of attraction but looks are as well. Women don't care about looks as much as men but looks are still important. That is why guys should try to keep in shape when they are dating and also have some style sense. I think that people who say looks is all that matters are taking things to an extreme. But people who say personality is all that matters are as well. Come on, most women won't date shorter men, would prefer a Chris Hemsworth over an overweight balding guy, and women really do appreciate a good sense of style.

 

It's a thought. How's it worked out for you?

What's an older boy? Who wants a female's companionship when you have to sign a contract before having sex or it's sexual assault or rape by law?

Any drinking of alcohol or other substances prior to signing and it's not binding.

Worthy? Hell, it's tough to find compatibility, let alone worthy.

Men who raise women on a pedestal are flirting with the "Madonna Whore Syndrome". Look it up.

 

May I ask what is the incentive for men to be with women we are no longer lord and master of the family, fine, then the vote was handed to women and less power then loss of fault divorce and now a woman can accuse a man of something bad and without evidence destroy him not even needing a court using social media its a chip by chip of loss of purpose. And now many see relationships in Western nations as having a very low if any cost-benefit to men. Sure in the Middle East and Africa where women are property almost yet its worth it but in America who cares women have all the power and men none when push comes to shove. So I say again walk away from women and forge the Manosphere in time replacing women with sex robots, genetic engineering and artificial wombs so we can have nice healthy boy babies and separate from women for all time and with it any and all support and the filthy, dangerous and unpleasant jobs we do let them fight in war and weld sewer pipes and rot on roof tarring them and construct and log wood.

I for one don't see them offering much save wet poon and lots of trouble, and women will still whore for men if we offer them enough money, until we get good sexbot replacements and men should do jack and **** for women the time for our being knights and good to them is done this is what the Feminists want so let them have it.

 

Just avoid liberal feminist at all cost and never dip your wick in crazy. Find a nice Trump girl! *Note* Particularly avoid women with green or purple hair!

 

Ain't no sheepess gonna tickle my urges.

I personally do not think political ideology is importamt at all when looking for a woman. What matters is values and although values and ideology overlap, few women are nerdy enough to know that.

If I were to date solely based on ideology, I'd find literally no one - Libertarian females in Sweden are close to zero.

 

I'd like to keep this simple women are like children some little children in capacity and some maybe low teens if of high capacity and need men to supervise them in the former case a great deal and the latter less so, but would you let a child of any age make important decisions and run things - no. At most a woman can be trusted to run ones home if the more mature sort and advise on matters of the house but they are too emotional and soft to make hard choices. That is the role of men.

 

Its been scientifically proven that men and women are genetically the same.

So who would they walk away from amd where would they go. Because basic science tells you that man next to you is also a woman, so you could run but could not hide.

 

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