Time to stop the lying. Trump Russian dirt shopping.

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  1. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Russians got the message loud and clear, when Trump solicited conspiracy and collusion. they all lined up to sell Trump corrupt advantage against Hillary.

    Roger Stone seems to be the point man.

    Guiliani says he DOUBTS Trump Knew Stone was shopping with Russians. LIES. Garbage.

    The election is in question. There is enough DOUBT, just with the liar lawyer Guiliani, to call it crooked.

    Trump needs to fess up what he knew. We promise he can bring his coke machine to prison.

    This is getting ridiculous. And it seems Ryan, Oconnell and many others will be thrown in Trump's cell.

    This has gone FAR ENOUGH.

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    Giuliani: 'I doubt' Trump knew Roger Stone met with Russian during 2016 campaign

    http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...knew-roger-stone-met-with-russian-during-2016
     
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    Sorry Sorry the election did not hinge on anything the Russian did. If anything it hinged on Comey's inability to sell the American people on the idea that Hillary was innocent of wrong doing.
     
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    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What does Hillary have to do with it? Nothing. It's just a thin stupid talking point to put a bandaid on the base.
     
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    I don't know whether the election hinged on what the Russians were doing.

    But there is no doubt that they tried.

    There is also no doubt that many prominent people in the Trump campaign were eager for teh chance to collude and coordinate their campaign with Russian intelligence.

    The issue is not whether the Russians flipped the election.

    The issue is whether a candidate for President of the United States, and his campaign colluded with the intelligence agencies of a hostile nation to install himself in the White House.

    I notice that Trumpsters don't even bother trying to deny that, anymore.
     
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    I have believed almost from the beginning that Roger Stone is one of the keys to this whole thing.
     
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    Everyone who watched the election knew the Russians weren't effecting it. The Russians hacked the election excuse started the day after Hillary lost. It began with recounts. I'm sure the Russians were just as surprised as their DNC allies when she lost.
     
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    You know there are times when I think the average leftist couldn't follow a truck with enough reflectors on its back end to light up the dark side of the moon. This is one of them. The claim in the OP was that Russian meddling effected the election. My counter claim is that Comey's failed attempt at white washing Hillary Clinton was vastly more damaging than anything the Russians did.
     
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    Then why do you give Hillary a pass for the Steele dossier. It seems that Democrats are more than willing to spread Russian disinformation.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is your modus operandi. EVERYONE KNOWS, any idiot can see, even stupid people, etc etc ect.

    Everyone WILL see, when the Mueller report INCINERATES the Trump Presidency.
     
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    Well except that there is no evidence at all that there was any such collusion in play at any time.
     
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    They literally think Hillary lost her Landslide because of a handful of Facebook ads that nobody saw or remember. In the big picture of ads on Facebook the odds of seeing a legitimate Russian ad would be like getting struck by lightning.
     
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    After the Russians hacked the election narrative failed they moved on to collusion.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is NOT what I said. I said the election was CORRUPT. It is. Making OTHER things worse, does NOT exculpate the Trump culpability.
     
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    Oh? I don't know of anyone in my circle that voted for Trump via Russian intrusion! On the other hand I know lots of people on both sides of the isle that would never voted for Hillary simply from her and her Hubbies back history! The Clintons are/were played out, the left just wasn't intelligent enough to recognize it, and I doubt they are any different today!
     
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    I think you will be disappointed. The Mueller report is going to end up a lot like Hillary's landslide. Lots of crying liberals screaming at the sky.
     
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    There is no Trump culpability until you can proof something that no one has yet.
     
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    Obama said the election is clean pure and unhackable.

    Is he a liar or a traitor?
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Could you link to that?
     
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    If it were it was when the DNC assbanged old Bernie and that fat lady that coached Hillyhag on debate question :)
     
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    Look it up. Are you telling me that Obama never said our elections are unhackable?
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Try that when you are the getaway driver, and your boys get shot up inside. I dint effect the robbery, I AM INNOCENT.
     
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    Well that goes without contest!
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    NON SEQUITOR.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    NO, you made a claim, don't be lame.
     
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    They are claiming that the election the Obama oversaw was corrupt. They make it sound like Obama sold America out to the Russians.
    They are very confused people
     
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