Trump and Pence Signal President Won't Resign or Be Removed

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  1. XXJefferson#51

    XXJefferson#51 Well-Known Member

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    Vice President Mike Pence signaled he’ll spurn demands to immediately oust Donald Trump over a deadly riot by the president’s supporters as the two met and agreed to work together for the remainder of the term, according to senior administration official.

    The discussion seems inconsistent with intense speculation that Trump plans to resign before Joe Biden’s Jan. 20 inauguration.

    It was the first time Trump and Pence have spoken since the president’s supporters stormed the Capitol while Pence was presiding over formal affirmation of his re-election defeat, according to two people familiar with the matter.

    The two men, meeting in the Oval Office, agreed that people who broke into the Capitol don’t represent Trump’s “America First” movement and pledged to continue their work on behalf of the country for the remainder of their term, the official said. It was a good conversation in which Trump and Pence discussed the week ahead and reflected on the last four years of the administration’s work, the official added.





    https://www.newsmax.com/politics/gen-gov-northam-pol/2021/01/11/id/1005175/





    I’m glad that they met and reconciled their differences. There is no way that Trump should resign or leave office before Jan. 20. There are things still to do and the trip to the border to promote success of the border wall is a good start.
     
  2. XXJefferson#51

    XXJefferson#51 Well-Known Member

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    It is clear that those who stormed the Capitol do not represent the ideals or values of of the administration or America First MAGA supporters.
     
  3. Capt Nice

    Capt Nice Well-Known Member

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    You would not think that way if you had heard everything trump said at the rally before they went berserk.
     
  4. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    You are absolutely wrong because the terrorists who committed acts or terror and murder are indeed the same type of scum as the extremists of the MAGA cult are. How can you deny the TRUTH??
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    The Trumpeezian ignore the truth.
     
  6. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    It is clear that those who stormed the Capitol DEFINITELY represent the ideals or values of of the administration AND America First MAGA supporters.

    Fixed your mistakes.

    No charge!
     
  7. Daniel Light

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    Whatever, dude. That ship has sailed ...

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    It's as if Trump supporters live in another dimension. LOL
     
  9. XXJefferson#51

    XXJefferson#51 Well-Known Member

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    I heard him tell them to be peaceful and patriotic and to cheer when anyone stood up to promote their point of view. Of course the mob broke into the capitol while he was speaking a mile and a half away so those present at his speech didn’t do it.,
     
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    XXJefferson#51 Well-Known Member

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    Just because they claim that doesn’t mean they acted or lived by our beliefs.
     
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    XXJefferson#51 Well-Known Member

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    No you created a misrepresentation of or lie about what I said. Typical progressive act.
     
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    I voted against Trump twice and I believe he deserves impeachment. That said, the hypocrisy of the Democrats is breathtaking.
    Incitement To Mob Violence, Acceptable Versus Unacceptable Forms
    January 10, 2021/ Francis Menton
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    • In case you were wondering, the Manhattan Contrarian hereby condemns mob violence without qualification, and whether coming from the left or right side of the political spectrum.

    • By Friday January 8, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi had had her team draw up a new draft article of impeachment against the President. The draft accuses the President of “incitement of insurrection” and “willfully inciting violence against the Government of the United States.”

    • In the list below, I have included what I think are the six most concerning statements from Trump’s speech. And then I have mixed in various statements from prominent Democrats and progressives with regard to leftist mob violence. See if you can tell which are which:
    1. “Make the phone calls, send the emails, show up. You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there’s unrest in our lives.”

    2. We’re going walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators, and congressmen and women. We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong.”

    3. “I believe injustice is a threat to the safety of all people. Because once you have a group that is marginalized . . . they have no choice but to riot.”

    4. “We will not let them silence your voices.”

    5. “[W]e’re going to have somebody in there that should not be in there and our country will be destroyed, and we’re not going to stand for that.”

    6. “And everyone beware, because they’re [violent protests] not gonna stop….They’re not gonna let up. And they should not. And we should not.”

    7. “We will never give up. We will never concede, it doesn’t happen. You don’t concede when there’s theft involved.”

    8. “I just don’t even know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be. . . .”

    9. “We’re not going to let it happen.”

    10. “The cries for peace will rain down, and when they do, they will land on deaf ears, because your violence has brought this resistance. We have the right to fight back!”

    11. “Together we are determined to defend and preserve government of the people, by the people and for the people.”
    Answers below the fold.

    READ MORE
     
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    If they "acted or lived" believing in OUR American DEMOCRACY they would have ACCEPTED that their biggest LOSER*-in-Chief LOST the election and that BIDEN will be PRESIDENT on 1/20/21.

    INSTEAD they went ahead and RIOTED by LOOTING and VANDALISING the Capitol KILLING 6 people in the process in a FAILED coup attempt INCITED by YOUR biggest LOSER*-in-Chief.
     
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    ahhh, the "No True Scotsman," defense. Whatever, dude.

    Trumps's banks are dropping him left and right. Corporations are dropping Republican donations. We have video records of the MAGA rioters and
    tons of social media posts. We know who we are dealing with.
     
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    You're only recalling the parts of his speech that you want to remember. His whole speech to the crowd was not peaceful.
     
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    I heard what he said, and I still think that. He asked the rally attendees to "walk down there" and "cheer".
     
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    I notice you, like everyone else that makes claims like this, don't have any actual quotes from President Trump's January 6th speech. If "his whole speech" really was "not peaceful", this should be easy: share the "not peaceful" parts with us.
     
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    To believe there were two different groups supports the fact that you did not see the events as they happened. You saw someone's edited version after the fact.
     
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    Values? Maybe not. Ideals? Absolutely!
     
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    Shall we look at some of the OTHER things that YOU have said and let the readers decide who is doing the MISREPRESENTATION?

    Your own words above prove that it was NOT me doing any misrepresentation.
     
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    Dude -

    Trump started speaking at 11:50am and finished at just after 1:00pm.

    Police reports show the rioters breached the police lines on the West Side of the Capitol at 2:11pm.

    Secret Service says they evacuated Mike Pence at 2:22pm

    2:24 - Trump tweets that Pence didn't have the courage to do what he should have done ..."

    2:39 - we have timestamped images of MAGA breaking Capitol windows.

    2:44 - reports of shots fired in the House Chamber.

    3:03 - rioters are photographed on the Senate floor.

    3:13 - Trump tweets his "remain peaceful" tweet.

    3:34 - police report woman has been shot.

    4:05 - Congressional leaders are taken out through the tunnels.

    4:17 - Trump post video asking for calm.

    Average human walking speed is 1 mile every 15 - 20 minutes. Your 1 1/2 miles ... 30 - 40 minutes if they walked slow.
     
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    What dishonest tripe that article is. Here's how they dishonestly edit President Trump's quote:

    Those ellipses are hiding this phrase:

    "We’re going to walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators, and congressmen and women. We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong."
     
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    WOW. Good job!!
     
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    The hate-America-first MAGA supporters were in Washington, DC to promote more cancel culture: Steal the election from Good Ole Joe Biden based on the delusions of a sociopathic narcissist, Worst President Ever Donnie Trump.
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