Trump appointee arrested in connection with Capitol riot

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  1. GlobalCitizen

    GlobalCitizen Well-Known Member

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    There were plenty of right wingers. But this thing went sideways through the actions of 2 or 3 dozen people. They were the facilitators. And Sullivan was one of the primary instigators. You cannot watch a compilation of videos from an investigative mindset, and deny it.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Anything to deflect blame from where it actually resides......
     
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    You only like the parts that fit your narrative.

    I'm sure we will see more of these threads on here and then next year when Republicans kill it at the midterms you all will be scratching your heads wondering why your 24/7 Trump bad and his supporters stormed the Capitol narrative failed for you.

    Some of the news I see is talking about the increasing number of illegals crossing our southern border. A fact Biden, his staff and the left is trying to ignore because they don't want America to see Biden is failing. He can barely speak on stage without having brain farts, he offers no plans to problems, refuses to talk to reporters and has already done several things to upset voters including killing jobs and women's sports and putting kids in cages. Something he attacked Trump for. What a hypocrite.

    You all don't know what to say or do with a failing and most likely dying old president so you keep trying to make the Republicans and Trump look bad to distract from the shitshow you all voted for.

    Let's look at the facts. John Sullivan asked many Antifa to show up. People saw non Trump supporters saying let's shake things up. Video shows Trump supporters screaming at Antifa and pulling them from Windows. Bombs were planted the night before in view of cameras but all camera footage is gone. The Democrats wanted to do anything to make Trump look bad and said they would remove him at all costs or destroy him. Security was weak. Republicans were upset Biden won and were sure there was voter fraud thus the Democrats had cheated. They wanted to find evidence of fraud. They were angry and felt they had power in numbers. The cops wanted Trump in power because the left did not support them. Trump was refusing to concede and was telling his supporters to keep protesting. He was angry too.

    The storming was for evidence of fraud from the Trump supporters and the non Trumpers wanted to cause chaos at the event. There was probably people on both sides wanting things to get out of controll and whoever put the bombs there the night before did it to make the MAGA crowd look guilty. Even the cops opened a gate and let people just walk in.

    There is zero evidence Trump incited the riot. It was a bunch of angry people that stormed the Capitol before Trump was even done talking. We will never know who all was behind the chaos.

    The Democrats had much worse violence over the summer so this is fake outrage anyways.

    If you all want to keep screaming inserrection and trying to paint Trump and his supporters as violent you can but it will have little effect on the midterms or 2024. Biden is a train wreck and Kamala will be taking over by 2024 and she is not very popular. The sooner the Democrats stop screaming orange man bad and actually try to fix the many problems they have the better chance they will have come the midterms.

    It's time for the Democrats to focus on the Democrats else everyone will see the party for what it really is. A bunch of hypocrites full of double standards who only care about themselves and not America.

    Also lets not forget:

    "Rioting for me but not for thee"- Democrats.

    "All riots are bad on both sides"- Republicans.
     
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    Nope, I simply have eyes and ears. I saw and heard Sullivan at the front of the pack, throughout the day. And I'll look for my posts, but I mentioned him in the very beginning before I or anyone knew who Sullivan was. He was the "smooth talker" I was referring to when I was pointing out the few facilitators on day one.
     
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    There is always backlash against the party in power. Dont confuse a vote against a republican as a vote for a democrat and vise versa. America is tired of washington, on BOTH sides.

    No, the RW networks started the border BS within minutes if Biden taking office. They called him out for the kids in cages (which I agree with them doing), and then in the very next sentence started the "he has open borders" BS. I watched Fox News that day and watched them literally contradict themselves all day long by claiming Biden was caging immigrants, and then in the very next sentence claiming he was "opening the border". It was f'n amazing to watch. But dont kid yourself, the standard Fox viewer fell for it, as it proven in your very post

    So Trump telling his supporters to "keep protesting" is not "inciting" ? You're not serious ?

    In that paragraph alone you just said that the republicans were upset, had power in their numbers, but they weren't responsible for the riots ?

    The John Sullivan thing is just more "we're the victims" BS by the right. You pick out 1 guy who was video taping, yet refuse to address the 300 others who were arrested, of which all were avowed right wingers. So those 300, avowed right wingers werent the problem, it was the 3 antifa guys that did al that damage ? Who was the guy in Nancy Pelosi's chair again ?

    No not really. I was against the rioters this summer, the same as I am now against those who stormed the capital.

    The BLM protests that burned and looted were wrong, and they all should be prosecuted. But claiming those who looted and burned a Target store to those who stormed the capital to overturn a free and fair election, and overthrow the government is beyond ridiculous. Yes, not every person at the capital on the 6th was there to physically assault, but most were, enough to overrun the captial police. Thats not a "few", thats a LOT. Not everyone of them physically stormed the capital, but they were ALL there for the very same reason, and that was to protest a free and fair election. Think about that for 5 minutes, they were protesting a free and fair election because their guy lost. And EVERY ONE of them would have been fine if that election was overturned thru that violence. Your claim that the police are supporting the republicans because they "like the cops" brings up one questions........Those were republicans that killed that capital police officer, and assaulted MANY more of them........so who supports the cops again ?
     
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    So the one Antifa guy overran the entire captial police force, and killed a capital police officer by himself ?

    The idea that ANTIFA is in any way responsible for the riots is just more victimhood by the right. Its getting laughable that the right now claims to be so easily manipulated that they are now victims ?

    Of all the people arrested for the actual violence, I have yet to see any one of them be ANTIFA. As a matter of fact, the ones we see daily are avowed Trump supporters.

    All due respect GC (I do respect the civil debate), the right needs to just own it. It was the right wing who was protesting the outcome of the election, not the democrats
     
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    The right wing was protesting. I've said from the very first day that it only took a couple dozen people to move this crowd into the building. Which is why I was on the security response from literally the moment I saw it.

    So really Sullivan was one of only a couple dozen that instigated this. And his role was pivotal, which I hope prosecutors have the bravery to point out.
     
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    So the entire 300 arrested (and soon to be more) were all pasties for the left wing agitators ?

    You cannot be serious ?

    300 arrests, and all of them are identified as right wingers. But your contention is that Antifa did everything and somehow evaded any arrests ?

    And it should be very easy to find out what Sullivan did since he was the one video tapping all of it, right ?
     

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