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Trump calls Michael Cohen payouts a ‘simple private transaction,’ denies they were campaign contribu

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  1. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't care that Bill Clinton shot his wad all over Linda Lewinsky in the Oval Office and lied about it, why would I be concerned who Trump paid off ?
     
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    Glad to see you edited your post calling me an idiot.

    Now, you are correct to note that directing someone to pay a NDA is not a felony - in an of itself. But neither is paying money to someone to sign an NDA. So you and I both know that Cohen did not plead guilty to a felony simply because he paid someone to sign an NDA, right? There must have been to it, right?

    And since we know that Cohen agreed that such a felony took place and we know that Trump directed Cohen to commit that felony...

    How much more evidence would you like to see?
     
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  3. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obvious the "resistance" aren't old schooled and aren't well trained in "one shot... one kill."

    Instead they are sending a large volume of fire into the "beaten zone" hoping to hit something, hitting anything.
     
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  4. MrTLegal

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    The fact that you would even reference Clinton's perjury in this thread is a reason that I don't ****ing believe that you "don't care."
     
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  5. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    AHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
     
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  6. Egoboy

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    Well, I don't think anybody has taken a targeted shot yet... there have beens a few bursts here and there (2 premature impeachment "attempts", Avenatti and the defamation suit, Emoluments lawsuit), but there are many many people with loaded weapons waiting.. and it could all come at the same time, since so many of them are separate...

    Ever seen the ending of "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid"??
     
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  7. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did anyone care that JFK was doing Norma Jeane ?

    Did anyone ever asked Jackie if she cared ?

    Back during those days America was still great and journalist were real journalist not political operatives.
     
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    how about showing us where he did?
     
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    Personally, I think 9/10ths of this is politically driven. And we will know when the dust finally settles. I think the democrats here will be wrong once again, as they were when it came to the 2016 election. And if they are their judgement is like hillary's....zero to none. Or they were 1/10 right, but 9/10s wrong about their accusations.

    I don't much care for politically driven partisans. They make me nauseous. And they will continue to ruin a constitutional republic. These folks would tear up a steel ball with a feather. A bull turned loose in a china shop.
     
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    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...ayment-debt-financial-disclosure-form-n874331

    In the interest of transparency, while not required to be disclosed as 'reportable liabilities' ... in 2016 expenses were incurred by one of Donald J. Trump's attorneys, Michael Cohen," a note at the bottom of Page 45 of the 92-page report states. "Mr. Cohen sought reimbursement of those expenses and Mr. Trump fully reimbursed Cohen in 2017. The category of value would be $100,001 to $250,000 and the interest rate would be zero."
     
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  13. TRFjr

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    he pleaded guilty to a nonexistent felony because of threats of other steeper charges
    Any one that excepts a plea deal his credibility becomes vey questionable

    also you assertion is a fallacy if you claim paying for an NDA isn't a crime or directing another to pay for a NDA on your behalf isn't a crime what crime did Cohen commit?
     
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    no. If they were directed by Trump (which was the accusation), that is a felony
     
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    Being a "thief" as in being a businessman? Or, are you talking about something else?
     
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    Ohh,... so close... but we have some lovely parting gifts just for playing...

    From your own link

    Federal law requires White House officials, including the president, to "report liabilities owed to any creditor that exceeded $10,000 at any time during the reporting period." It is illegal to "knowingly and willfully" omit or falsify information on disclosure forms, a crime punishable by a fine and up to one year in prison.

    Last year, Trump did not disclose any debts to Cohen, who executed a payment of $130,000 to Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford, less than two weeks before the 2016 presidential election.

    So yes, Trump eventually paid Cohen back as part of the cover up that he hid from Oct 2016 through May 2017, when he submitted his 2016 liabilities...
     
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    Arkanis, Dec 10, 2018
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    Half the country?

    You know what they say about people with lower IQ... they are they ones who alway call other people morons :)
     
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    Trumps statement would still hold true if Trump leaned of it after the fact
     
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    No he does not. Trump has done nothing illegal.

    For if he did, there are 264 current and former Congressmen who paid women hash-money out of a slash-fund, funded by the American taxpayers and thus they're all criminals too? Be careful now...

    And Trump paid to these two women using his own money :party:
     
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    For heaven's sake, can you be morre pathetic?Lawyers are hired to take care of business.It's ultimately their responsibility.They studied the law.
     
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    Ask John Edwards if thats a benefit to the campaign. Equating this to a "damn hair cut" is beyond ridiculous. John Edwards was charged with a felony and brought to trial in a federal court. He only got off because fo a mistrial, and since he was already ruined politically, they didn't retry him.
     
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    Spare me, brutha. Are you now putting Trump on the trial 'cos he has hired a prostitute?
     
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    Federal Campaign Finance Law

    It is in the friggin pleading. He spent money on behalf of the campaign for the benefit of the campaign and then took multiple steps to hide that fact. The fact that Trump directed him to take those actions also means that Trump violated the same law.
     
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    Trump is so powerful, reality adapts to his lies.
     
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