Trump Calls on Cast of 'Hamilton' to Apologize, Saying They 'Harassed' Mike Pence

I see this as a 1st Amendment issue. We've all just lived through a very divisive campaign for President, and remain ideologically divided. The only way to unite the country is through discussing the differences and finding some common ground. The cast chose to make a political statement and Trump chose to respond with a political statement. Both are free speech and protected by the Constitution. There are many ways to speak your peace. Each chose their own way. I didn't see rudeness in the castmember's message to Pence. I did see rudeness in the audience booing Pence.

 

So does this mean Trump is a whiny ******* progressive because he wants theaters to be safe spaces?

 

'Trump Calls on Cast of 'Hamilton' to Apologize, Saying They 'Harassed' Mike Pence"

lol, Trump must think he is a dictator.....

 

Are theaters supposed to be safe spaces for Conservatives?

 

You encouraged him not to respond so I asked you the very valid question and why should he not have that right.

If you refuse to be responsible for what you have actually said then that is your choice.

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You don't see the rudeness in making a public spectacle out of a single person and infer they are racist? Are you serious?

 

Well, if you don't want to be booed and disliked, don't do things that will cause people to boo and dislike you. Actions have consequences; if Pence doesn't want to deal with the fact that his policy positions will make a large segment of the American population dislike him, then he can huddle up in his own personal safe space. It's somewhat unprofessional to go out of character like that, but it was ridiculously mild as personal addresses go, and it's their show to run how they please.

 

Name one thing Pence has done that is racist. If you are going to just fabricate facts at least have the courage to try and support them.

 

Ok

10char

 

A man with any balls at all would have not only stayed but got on the stage to speak to these people, who offered up one of the most polite and friendly protests imaginable.

Three minutes in the Brietbart machine and they're black terrorists pulling copious race cards and probably hate Jews.

 

Yup, did he think that the Americans who opposed him would just shut up and leave him alone?










If he did it just shows, again, how ill prepared he his for the job....

 

So people who feel threatened aren't even allowed to say they're afraid any more?

This is similar to what the Nazis did in Kristallnacht, they terrorized the Jews and then blamed them for being afraid, they fined the Jews huge amounts for the riots against them

Trump is going to have camps for ALL Muslims and Hispanics, even citizens, by the end of 2017. I predict that with a 70% confidence

 

Luckily for both you and Pence, this wasn't a black activist event. So you're safe.

 

That don't scare me.

 

Pence handled himself just fine. The idiots on stage made themselves look stupid. No one cares what a bunch of actors think. People payed money to watch your show, not listen to your opinion. Sure, you have the right to make a fool of yourself. Doesn't mean you should. Trump was plenty justified in his message. If idiot actors can babble their opinion, then the President Elect sure as hell can reply. He didn't "order" them to apologize. More like he was pointing out that if the idiot actors had any class, they would admit that the theatre was neither the time not place for their petty little outburst.

 

Pence is a big boy and knows that you have to have thick skin if you are going to be in politics; his overseer, Lord Trump, doesn't and hence the tweet by him. Both the cast and Trump were exercising their first amendment rights.

 

Pence handle himself fine, the President elect.... not so much

 

i have a duty to inform you as a fellow patriot we are not this free state as you say, under the patriot act there are warrant less searches and seizures of computer devices, indefinite detentions without charge, mass surveillance, etc..

when our leader says we must do something, it is in our interest to obey as a gesture of national courtesy.

 

With all due respect, I think a point is being missed;

it's not WHAT Trump wrote in his tweet, it's about THAT he objected to the Hamilton speech in the first place. It's Trumps ''old'' objection against free speech.

Now, I am all for free speech but Trump IS the President Elect of the United States. It's deplorable that he insults the people who utter grievance or concern against his administration. (Which might be the same people who elected him.)

On Saturday Mr Trump tweeted: "Our wonderful future V.P. Mike Pence was harassed last night at the theater by the cast of Hamilton, cameras blazing. This should not happen!"

Harassed? Where and when did the cast of Hamilton harass Pence? I mean, this is just the most blatant lie you've ever read. After that Trump suggests this kind of thing (you know, freedom to speak your mind) should not happen. Then he implies it was somehow deliberately filmed to create controversy. Paranoid to the max!

"The theater must always be a safe and special place. The cast of Hamilton was very rude last night to a very good man, Mike Pence. Apologize!"

Finally, Trump insults the voters by asking them to apologize for their God-honest opinion.

Now, you can't read anger into a tweet. (I mean the kind of anger that makes silverware fly trough the living-room.)
I think that is EXACTLY the kind of anger Donald J. Trump feels and expresses when ''his'' people try to speak their mind against his administration to come.

If anybody STILL doubts Donald Trump has a temperament; think again.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=robert+de+niro+capone&t=ffab&ia=videos&iai=cOnQZ8BEmB4

Remember, from January President Trump has the law available to put some of his vile rhetoric into practice. God knows where and when anybody will ever again be able to freely speak their mind.
The answer (and if genuinely believe this is no BS) is NEVER if President Trump gets it his way.

Let's stand up against Trump and his dictatorial tweets! Let's tweet back and remind him free speech is a basic human right!

 

I am not 'fabricating' anything; I'm saying that Pence knowingly allied himself with Trump, and knew that taking that action would lead to a large portion of America thinking that he's racist, and proceedingly disliking him. It does not matter, for the purposes of this conversation, whether he is actually racist. He can't take an action that he knows will make a large portion of Americans dislike him, and then complain about them disliking him. If people want to boo at someone they dislike, that's their right; if a musical cast wants to make exceedingly mild comments about him, to his face, that's their right. Actions have consequences. If he doesn't want to face the consequences of his actions, he can go cozy up in his own private safe space.

Also, 'harrasment' is repetitive or prolonged behavior, by definition, by the way.

 

The cast is their to entertain those who have paid good money to see them. If they want to share their political opinions they should do so on another forum, not to those trapped in their seats and forced to listen to their naive puerile nonsense. This is just another example of the immaturity, intolerance, and anti social behavior from the Left Wing throughout much of the US today.

 

You: """ If idiot actors can babble their opinion, then the President Elect sure as hell can reply. """

I'm sure you won't get the humor in that statement....


The actors didn't make themselves look stupid, they gave a very intelligent speech.....and if you don't think there's a precedent for the theater raising political issues you don't know the theater...or Shakespeare...

























Pence should have known better than to go to a play about Freedom and Liberty because he believes in neither.

 

It's not a matter of rights but a matter of respect. When a politician can't arrive for a social evening out with his family without getting booed, or otherwise harassed, it brings down the tone of a civil society dramatically. Neither Mike Pence or his family did anything to deserve this.

 

Oh boo (*)(*)(*)(*)ing hoo. He's a politician. Open to criticism and questioning.


Or did you (*)(*)(*)(*)ing forget the last 8 years?

 

Criticism and questioning as a patron of the theater? What criticism was there? What questioning? What chance of response was there? The decline continues.

As to the last eight years I've never heard of anything similar occurring to Joe Biden. Have you?