Trump encourages adoption

FoxHastings said: ↑
Bad analogies, no one is trying to make more homeless people and no one is trying to make more illegal immigrants...

There are those who want to make more kids to adopt....so they should adopt more kids.

No, they were bad analogies, my post stands.

 

Sure you can, for the other person. My point is that those who support adoption should be willing to do more than simply support.
9 months of hardship and maybe a rape victim, and there is the child raising issue. A woman has the right to make that choice and she is responsible for the upkeep. Her body belongs to her.

 

Any "source" that makes incredibly stupid, hyperbolic, and erroneous statements like " “feel that killing their children is a better option than choosing families for their children" is NOT credible for anything...




Could you tell me why you feel women have an obligation to give other people babies?

 

If they care so much, why are there so many orphans?

 

You simple dismissal of the facts notwithstanding, quote me saying women have an "obligation"? What kind of "obligation" are you talking about?

 

How about those who support abortion? Should they be willing to more than just support? Do you have to have had an abortion in order to support abortion?

How about those that support helping the homeless, should they do more than just simply support helping the homeless? How about those on the list that clarborist posted? I have two adopted kids he has five does that mean we are now qualified to support adoption? How many abortions have you had?

 

No they were quite fitting as was clarborist list. So unless you have had an abortion you cannot support abortion?

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Could you tell me why you feel women have an obligation to give other people babies?

Just that you have promoted/ supported/advocated women giving up their babies for adoption throughout this thread and you are against women having the right to abortion...

....gee, I don't know where I got the idea that you think women are obligated to give up their baby for adoption..


So you think they aren't....so you think they have a right to have an abortion instead...?

 

How many orphans were aborted? How many orphans would put into an orphanage the day they were born and lived there all their lives? You do know the vast majority of kids put into foster care or institutional care are only there for a short period and go back to their parents or other family? Why do you keep moving the goal post you really think it would have been better had they been killed when they were still unborn babies?

 

Where did I say an obligation? Why do you not support adoption?

If you support abortion are you required to get one? Do you have an "obligation" to get one?

 

Gee, I don’t know, I’m not the CFO of these organizations. Keep in mind that the article only mentions a few of the larger organizations that provide these services to women AFTER THE CHILD IS BORN. There are hundreds of other smaller organizations that also provide those same services as well.
Now, let’s get back on topic..You stated that you won the argument that pro lifers don’t care about the children after they are born. Now that I’ve shown you clear evidence to the contrary are you willing to be honest enough to admit that your accusation was incorrect and retract that statement?

 

You know what adopting is..... right? The above clearly indicates that either you don't, or you are trying to derail here....

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Unless they have brown skin and come from another country and then he wants soldiers to shoot them to keep them out of this country...…

Gee, Trump lied again...so not shocking...

I was addressing how much Trump really values life....


NO where in the post of mine you quoted did I state I didn't know what adoption was....

 

If you support helping the homeless, then you should consider doing something to help the homeless. I don't know why you equate the two situations when they don't in anyway equate. Like apples and oranges. I don't care if some people are opposed to abortion, as long as they don't act on that feeling other than to express it. You have the right to choose to stand on your head and whistle Dixie if you want to. A woman, in my view, has the right to choose what to do with her body. If you are opposed to abortion, then you should be willing to support that opposition by adopting. There are many orphans floating around without love and attention in their lives. Why are we having this conversation?

 

Are you kidding? They do not go to families after a short while, or if they do they are discarded for whatever reason.

 

Thanks for reminding me. Can you post a link to where Trump wants to shoot brown people trying to come into the country? Thanks,

 

So, why aremost of the starving children in the world brown?

 

Greedy liberal socialist leaders.

 

WHITE HOUSE

'Consider it a rifle': Trump says migrants throwing rocks will be treated as armed
The remarks came at the end of a speech on immigration.


By TED HESSON, REBECCA MORIN and ANDREW RESTUCCIA


11/01/2018 11:15 AM EDT


Updated 11/01/2018 07:49 PM EDT
By sending 15000 armed troops to the border, Trump is raising the ante and asking for trouble as an excuse to "shoot someone in the street".

 

Yeah suuuuuure!

 

Prove most new borns put up for adoption do not get adopted, prove even a substantial number. I have already proven there is a HUGE disparity in the numbers of couples wanting to adopt newborns and how many that are available, your simple dismissal refutes nothing.

 

I see you couldn't find it either.

 

Like take one into your house? You are the one using the logical fallacy that if you support something first you must engage in it. So until you have had an abortion you cannot support abortion.

 

I didn't say that if you support something, you must engage in it. You don't have to do anything in my view, but you should. Talk
is cheap, but when faced with the prospect of raising an orphan they run for the hills. More important than that is a woman's right to choose, and that is where we part company.

 

That is the argument being made, if you haven't adopted any children then you cannot support adoption.

You

So you can't support abortion until you have had an abortion.