Trump is more popular than Dems want to admit

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    Minimum wage will increase in 18 US states in 2018 ...
    www.businessinsider.com/minimum-wage-increase-states-in-2018-2017-12
    Minimum wage will rise in 18 states in 2018 — but no one can agree on the impact it will have

    Wages on the rise as US maintains cyclical momentum ...
    https://perspectives.pictet.com/2018/02/02/wages-on-the-rise-as-us...
    But the wage gains were not broad-based. Manufacturing workers, for instance, saw only +1.9% y-o-y growth in wages. More broadly, production workers’ earnings rose 2.4% y-o-y, barely above the one-year average of 2.3%. Still, the overall trend in wage growth looks to be firming, echoing signs that the US labour market is nearing full employment.

    US job numbers and wage growth are up – but inequality
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/feb/02/us-job-numbers...
    US job numbers and wage growth are up but inequality is also on the rise ... slow recovery for US workers but wages finally appear to be growing again, ...

    United States Wages and Salaries Growth | 1960-2018 | …
    https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/wage-growth
    United States Wages and Salaries Growth 1960-2018 | Data | Chart Wages in the United States increased 4.45 percent in March of 2018 over the same month in the previous year


    Even USA Today showed how Small Business is doing a lot better under Trump.

    Don't forget small businesses. We're booming under Trump ...
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/02/21/small-businesses...
    Feb 22, 2018 · Watch video · Don't forget small businesses. We're booming under Trump tax cuts, too. We're green-lighting two start-ups, doubling research and development, hiring more people and giving larger raises and bonuses.

    That takes care of 2 of your concerns. Uhm Healthcare requires legislation.....what have your Democrats done to make anything better?

    No the debt isn't being ignored.....but then strengthening the military isn't cheap and needed to be done.

    Oh and most of all that has been done in less than 2 years with trump not even being halfway thru his first term.
     
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    Sorry my responses are in red, I would normally break the quotes apart but I’m on a iPad and it doesn’t like to cooperate.
     
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    uh, that is from the Bureau of Labor and Statistics. It's right at the bottom of the chart.
     
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    lol, you were proven 100% wrong. I accept your concession. Pick up your ball, and pout all the way home.
     
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    proven false, lol.
     
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    Name an Obama policy that created jobs. This is what, the fourth time I asked?
     
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    You asked, and you were answered. Your claims, and Alpha's claims have been completely refuted.
     
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    Obama's the one who said "You didn't build that" while President Trump is cheer leading businesses to make America great again.
    Yuge difference.
     
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    Yet wages are growing. Oh and of course States are playing their part.

    Except for all those small businesses hiring more and increasing their wages.

    Well and more small business are being approved for loans. So its good for entreprenuerships.

    Not really.....as one can look up how many bills the House has put forth.

    As for the military is should make sense. Nukes were getting old. Missiles and Subs. US Military tech.....from armored vehicles, planes, to ships. To even tech foot soldiers used. You didn't think we could keep up with just fixing old outdated equipment did you? Moreover the US uses the Military for Natural disasters in saving people lives too.

    It doesn't matter how much others are spending. Unless you consider China and Russia with what they are spending. Our military is able to get anywhere on the planet in as short a time as possible. No other can do that.

    I often do have to chuckle at those people who stand in front of a microwave and say, cmon hurry up.

    So why can't Trump be given credit for what he has done? Especially knowing the stagnation that has been taking place for the last 2 decades or more?
     
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    I’m not one to say we need to cut military spending to the bone, I just don’t like increasing spending without increasing oversight. I also think we need to charge other countries when they cry for us to come help, especially the ones that mock us constantly.

    I am not saying Trump has done nothing, I am in the middle in most areas when it comes to politics, I just don’t understand the rhetoric behind many of the people that champion him. The stagnation in government is often due to the party that is in opposition to the presidency. Obama only had two years to actually pass anything as the Republicans ran on the policy to obstruct him. If Democrats win the house and/or the senate we will likely see the favor returned unfortunately - against the best interests of the country.

    I guess I just don’t like politicians in general, doesn’t matter their political affiliation.
     
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    ”You didn’t build that” was taken out of context, the word ‘that’ in context was referring to roads bridges and other infrastructure.

    Using remarks like this to enhance your point makes you look biased or uneducated, perhaps both and totally demolishes any argument you make before you have even made them.
     
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    Don't have to name anything, Steve N. The Obama economic recovery speaks for itself: an all time record in steady job growth.

    For the second straight year in a row, GDP under Trump is not going to reach either of Obama's last two years.
     
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    That is where it has been. Cut to the bone. Everyone bitches about the conflicts we have been in. Equipment gets old, breaks down, even rescuing people.

    Oh and I agree 100% about charging other countries. Especially those that mock us.

    Its not about Championing him. Its about giving him the credit that's due. I disagree with him on a few things. But then, dealing with establishment and the Lame Stream. I don't blame him for how he plays them and sets them up.

    Nor do I believe for one minute or second.....that if it wasn't Trump. The Demos and the leftness would be doing it to another Repub.

    Oh and as to BO the Peep. The Repubs didn't always Obstruct him. Nor did they prevent him from getting his Administration up and running.

    Hence those Repubs that were in his administrations. The Peep getting his budgets passed especially in his second term. Repubs caving and going with the spending.
     
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    These 9 Charts Expose The TRUTH About Obama's 'Economic ...
    https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/9-charts-obamas-economic
    These 9 Charts Expose The TRUTH About Obama’s ‘Economic Recovery’… Media Won’t Report This. By Ben Marquis October 1, 2015 at 9:24pm


    The Truth About The Obama Administration’s Economic Recovery.....

    According to a recent report by the Department of Commerce, the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) increased only 0.5% in the first quarter of 2016. This figure represents the lowest increase in the past two years and the third consecutive year beginning with a negative economic report.

    In fact, the economic stagnation of the Obama Administration dates back beyond the past 3 years. The average GDP in the past seven years was 1.32 percent. In comparison, during the Reagan years, the GDP was 3.5 per cent per year.

    The President’s comments completely differ from reality. Barack Obama, during his two terms, has amply demonstrated that he knows the recipe for debt, unemployment and economic stagnation. At the time of this writing, the United States has accumulated a national debt of 19 trillion dollars, has 94 million people out of the labor force and has been unable to reach a 3% GDP growth for 7 consecutive years; and all of this occurring after the most expensive financial bailout in the history of the country.

    Furthermore, the current Administration has broken records in collecting revenue from taxpayers. In the first half of the fiscal year, the government collected $ 1.48 trillion, this amount coming from individual and corporate taxes. During the same period, the government spent $ 1.94 trillion. The result: 461 billion dollars in deficit. Remember, this is only half of the current fiscal year.

    And this is not all. According to the Department of Labor; only 160,000 jobs were added to the economy in April. This figure was lower than expected and represents one of the worst economic indexes in the past 8 years.

    Despite reports, the Obama administration paints another picture. The Bureau of Labor Statistics recently informed that the unemployment rate is below 5%. At this point, an obvious question arises among Americans: It is possible to have less than 5% unemployment rate when the GDP is as low as 0.5% and more than 90 million people are out of the labor force?

    At this rate, it is unlikely that any measure taken by the President will overcome the economic stagnation or reduce the deficit that the country has experienced for more than 7 years.

    If the same trend continues, when Obama finishes his second term in 8 months, he will become the first President in the history of the country who could not achieve a growth higher than 3% in any year of his mandate.....snip~

    http://bwcentral.org/2016/05/the-truth-about-the-obama-administrations-economic-recovery/


    So much for the Utterer Stutterer.
     
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    That's funny. Trump has done more good in 16 months than Obama did in eight years.

    Thanks. I needed a laugh.
     
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    Everything you listed as a negative in regards to Trump sounds like something that ultra leftists Chris Matthews or Rachel Maddow would have 'created' in their propaganda department and then flung onto the airwaves as a propaganda special. It is, in other words, leftist crudola and is to be dismissed out of hand. That, by the way, is why Trump does have such a high popularity rating nowadays. People see what he has actually accomplished versus what the leftist Trump haters and bitter RINOs claim to the contrary; and they trust their eyes and their pocket books rather than leftist propaganda.

    As for Obama's popularity, how can that surprise you? 7/24/365 the exact same leftist-allied mainstream media outlets that effectively SHRIEK how EVIL Trump is also 7/24/365 strongly intimated that Barack Obama was the political equivalent of the second coming of Jesus Christ along with the fillip that anyone disagreeing with them was obviously a racist. Naturally Barack Obama was going to consistently poll higher than his actions as a president warranted and naturally Trump is going to be polling lower.
     
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    Uh what legacy? You mean his flop called ObamaCare or his Pen and Phone presidency? Trump has methodically wiped out Obama's pen and phone presidency and ObamaCare remains a pathetic joke.
     
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    Obama spoke and people then asked: what planet is he from?

    Trump speaks and people agree with every word, even if lots of it is hyperbole. He talks about jobs, the border, terrorism, and trade. And then he takes the American side on these issues. How refreshing.

    On the "b.s." scale from 1 to 10, Trump is a 7 and Obama was a 5. But on the more important "results" scale (improving America) Trump is a 9 and Obama was a 1. Only results matter.

    That's how "middle America" sees it.
     
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    You do know that the lie about Obama deporting more illegals than any previous president has been endlessly debunked, right? What Obama did was count as a deportion any illegal caught entering illegally at the border and turned back, something that no previous president counted as an actual deportion. The only reason Obama got away with the lie was because the leftist-allied Mainstream Media effectively worked for him for eight straight years as the propaganda arm of the DNC.
     
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    pssst . . . you mean when he gave people government jobs? Most of the jobs creation under Obama were government jobs that he probably had created just for job seekers. What the hell, it was only taxpayers' money, yes?
     
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    As always, thanks for you reasoned well thought out post with verifiable data, objective commentary and counter arguments.

    Everything I posted is fact, I don’t watch main stream media so I haven’t a clue what those ideologies you mentioned have to do with your response, verses your... I guess that can pass as subjective opinion. You even skipped right over the main premise of the question I asked.

    People like you is why I detest our public education system, it has failed us as a country and ramifications of this failure will be felt for decades to come.
     
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    Democrats will continue to stick to their talking points...
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