Trump ordered US drone strike that killed Iran general Qassem Suleimani

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  1. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How long did it take to get bin laden?

    Trump isnt worrying about the impeachment.
     
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    True, I would only recognize real accomplishments. Trump likes to brag about himself as he has always done, even before he was president, but as ever he does so without any basis. What I don't get is why you would feel compelled to believe that he has accomplished anything. Outside of the trumper propaganda bubble, in the real world, he has accomplished nothing noteworthy, except to enrich himself, his children and his wealthy supporters.
     
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    Pompeo's been on the phone all day talking to leaders of foreign countries, assuring them that de-escalation is our priority. We'll see how well that goes in a few days.

    https://twitter.com/SecPompeo
     
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    Fake news. Cancer mortality in Serbia has been high and had seen an increase since 1991, according to this study - https://cancercommun.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40880-018-0282-3 - but the rate is lower than in Mongolia, Hungary and Armenia. The study also says:

    Since the late 1980s, cancer mortality rates have been declining in most developed countries [4,5,6,7]. In contrast, cancer mortality trends in some Eastern and Southern European countries have risen continuously [7, 8]. It is considered that the decrease in overall cancer mortality rates in developed countries is attributable to the reduction in tobacco smoking-related cancers (i.e., lung, intestinal, prostate, and cervical cancers, among others) [3, 5, 7]. The reduction in cancer mortality in Western countries might also be attributed to reductions in other major risk factors (e.g., dietary habits, alcohol use, occupational exposure to carcinogens, infection, and so on) as well as the availability and use of screening, early diagnosis, and improved treatment. The increased cancer mortality in developing countries probably reflects lifestyle changes that accompany industrialization, including greater consumption of animal fats, increased obesity, and physical inactivity [8, 9].​

    And:

    In Serbia, the noted increase in cancer mortality trends among the oldest birth cohorts (for prostate cancer in males, as well as for pancreatic and hematological malignancies in both sexes) might be attributed to aging and specific exposure to risk factors in early life. The period effects in the mortality trend for hematological malignancies among males only in Serbia are not fully understood. Considering the shorter latency time than for solid organ tumors, the increased mortality trend for hematological malignancies in males during 2006–2015 might be associated with a higher exposure to numerous risk factors during this period, including participation in war and the cleaning and decontamination of fields that were contaminated by various chemicals and other pollutants during bombings [33].​

    In short, any carcinogenic effect from DU bombs used in Serbia is minimal to none, going by actual recorded data. All you have is the usual anti-US fake news created and propagated by our foreign adversaries, most notably Putin's Russia.
     
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    Clearly a response to the embassy attack, not the BS impeachment.
     
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    The Protest at the Embassy was because of the US taking over 20 lives. I do not get why some Americans only see Americans as humans. Anyway looks like you are on your way out.
     
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    Those strikes were retaliation for a deadly Iranian rocket attack. Even Steven today, you're up Iran what you got?
     
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    Dumb, Dumber, Dumbest, Trump
     
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    You almost make it sound like Iranian militia fighters are "innocent victims".

    Breaking the gates and trying to smash through doors/windows of an embassy building is not a "peaceful protest" by citizens who are unhappy that their militia members were killed in an on-going war.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-ira...r-over-strikes-iran-militia-today-2019-12-31/

    "An estimated 6,000 angry Iraqi protesters gathered at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad on Tuesday, railing against deadly U.S. airstrikes this week that killed 25 fighters from an Iran-backed Shiite militia in Iraq. "

    "The U.S. official told CBS News' Margaret Brennan that many of the protesters were in fact violent actors sent by the Iranian-linked militias."
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That too is described as a massive overkill. That is why you got the response you got which the papers were saying was 'humiliating' not lethal, 'humiliating', for Trump. This is his reaction to being humiliated. Anyway people seem to think it was Trump's worst blunder. One Guardian article by someone I don't usually like seemed to put those things together. These actions not in accord with Trumps desired policy but very much with his personality he said. Narcissists don't like Humiliated.
     
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    Tomorrow will be something else. The media always act like whatever is "most recent" is "Trump's worst blunder"...even if the only error he makes on some days is misspelling a word in a Tweet. America is deaf and numb from "Orange Man Bad".
     
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    It's ****ing WAR! There's no such thing as overkill in war. The goal is to totally destroy your opponents.
    **** with your silly nonsense.
     
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    Just think if the demedia had portrayed the killing of Osama Bin Ladin the way they are treating the killing of this terrorist general.
     
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    Meh, the demedia says a lot of silly things.
     
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    You're not reading your quote correctly. What the quote says, is that the increase in male cancer was probably caused by the bombings in Serbia. As for where my information came from, well it come from a Greek religious site. The site said that buses from Serbia with cancer patients have been heading to the shrine of Saint Nektarios on the island of Aegina, since he is known to cure cancer.
     
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  16. alexa

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    You are now calling the people who protested at the embassy Militias. You didn't dare kill them though did you.


    Oh please I am not going to believe what CBS says to an American audience.

    You murdered people. They protested and harmed no one. You did an act which could cause total war in the ME and Americans being killed around the world by Iran's many support groups. As the papers say. This was not like killing the head of Al Qaeda or ISIS who were finished. This is killing those who are highly regarded. The US is used to attacking and killing people who cannot defend themselves. Countries who are on their own. Iran is not. You have made a very big mistake.
     
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    Hmmm, does that mean that soon Iran will be finished?
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The US will be leaving Iraq then if it wants de-escalation.
     
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    The US leaving Iraq would de-escalate nothing. You must not be aware of the issues between Iran and Iraq.
     
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    Oh, I bet the USA is affraid of big bad iran... It took 100 days to destroy Iraq, I give the Iranian less than 50.
     
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    No. That is part of the point. We have had all these discussions. You will not beat Iran easily and it will have an enormous cost for the American people. You made the mistake on attacking a country who does have defence, does have the ability to bring surprise attacks and is not alone.
     
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    Iran vows revenge after U.S. strike as State Department urges Americans to leave Iraq immediately

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...r-u-s-kills-its-n1109856?cid=eml_nbn_20200103

    Of course they will. Trump may have bitten off more than is reasonable.........with no regard to consequences. This was done by a small Trump group and did not go through the proper protocol......catching many off guard. Protocol matters. Now Americans are running for safety............ suggesting poor planning The motive for this event is questionable as is the timing. It suggests the lengths that Trump will go to get re elected..........and distract from his impeachment. Trump's gloating about this planned assassination is just offensive and childish.

    Because the Trump regime has no credibility........one cannot believe anything they say......






    Trump loves being the center of attention........and now has center stage on the planet.
     
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    Don't need to invade. Their oil installation are all conviently located along the coast. Easy target. Once the fuel is gone so is the Iranian army.
    If there's a war with Iran, it won't be a nation building mission... Think Dresden in WW2 instead.
     
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    Protocol didn't matter for Obama, so why would it matter to Trump?
     
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    The thinking before was that the US would not support war with Iran until after this years election because if the US is bringing home planeload after planeload of American's in body bags it is not going to look good for him. I thought he would agree to it for after the election as he would need to to get the support of his donors and base who want this. Possibly impeachment has made him bring it forward. It will be supported by his base not because they care about him but because they are using him.
     

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