Trump orders establishment of 'space force' as 6th branch of military

Hey, there no reason gif that statement. We have not had any major amphibian operations either. Maybe Grenada was a small one plus chopper assaults.

 

Never hear you say this about leftist giveaway programs and grants.

 

Just like Reagan was ahead of the left's ability to comprehend with SDI, Trump is also beyond the left's ability to comprehend the ALREADY OCCURING military applications of space...such as the already happening satellite targeting etc.

This will, inevitably be an , if not THE, most important area of strategic capability.

The left plays checkers (poorly) ; Trump plays CHESS, well...

 

It must have been psychologically neet to watch the enemy cringe in anticipation of big shells raining down on their heads.

 

Once again, sarcasm.

The lack of naval gunfire support has not caused the failure of a single mission since the battleships were retired.

 

The USA only has one type of cruise missile, the Tomahawk and only the USAF has nuclear tipped Tomahawks today and they are strategic nuclear weapons not tactical nuclear weapons that can be used on the battlefield. I'm pretty sure there are low nuclear yield tactical Tomahawk cruise missile warheads in storage but none deployed.

Should be noted that Sec. of Def. Gen. "Mad Dog" Mattis is on record saying there is no such thing as a tactical nuclear weapon, all nuclear weapons are strategic.
Mattis: No such thing as a ‘tactical’ nuclear weapon, but new cruise missile needed
https://www.defensenews.com/space/2...nuclear-weapon-but-new-cruise-missile-needed/

A one site that has it all to go too -> http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/index.html

 

No way that Tlump play chess. He must have heard it from someone. Seriously thecTrumpocity is not a thinker.

 

Oh...so the Pentagon is keeping you briefed on operations? Cool.

 

ok got it. I am not used to your sense of humor yet.

 

What "Kinks" are actually worked out are a matter of National Security and no one is being forthcoming especially with the Chinese having fitted a Rail Gun on a test ship.

Ours with a 100 mile range will be fitted on the USNS Millinocket for sea trials.

 

The Long Tom was just a 155mm howitzer.

 

Yeah. He's accidentally a billionaire international entrepreneur, who defeated the heaviest spending establishment campaign in history. What an idiot. Der...

Same bullshit nonsense the left was spewing when Reagan demonstrated a FAR GREATER and FAR-REACHING STRATEGIC UNDERSTANDING than they were capable of, same as Pres.Trump is doing now.

 

So you are saying Trump knows more about the need for a separate space branch than James Mattis?

Cadet Bonespurs knows more about the military than General Mad Dog?

 

Yeah, he is exactly accidentally a billionaire. His status as a billionaire is due to random genetic factors, IE being born to the right family.

 

There’s zero evidence that the Chinese have solved any of the problems with the railguns that we’ve seen.

Having a weapon that can only be fired once every few hours and needs to be completely overhauled every couple shots isn’t a weapon without “kinks”.

 

How many amphibious assaults has the USMC launched since 1992? Or do you think massive beach assaults are something that can be done clandestinely?

 

"President Trump vowed on Monday to make space great again". Oh no. Where have I heard this before. "Make America Great Again" What can go wrong?

 

A Space Force to counter China and Russia is ridiculous. The Chinese have only just orbited men in space and Russia is working with cold war tech so primitive Putin revived our old insane Project Pluto nuclear engine cruise missile and was insane enough to fly it over his own country. Not only did he admit it, but he showed a video of Russia doing it, and the French detected the massive releases of Iodine 131 from TORY reactors melting down.

What is of greater concern is China laying down invasion super highways and logistics military bases with their Belt Road Initiative.

 

The USA hasn't fought a real army since the decommissioning of the Iowas.

In 2003 in Iraq, Saddam Hussein's military didn't even have an air force or a navy and its ground army was quickly defeated by just 200,000 American troops.

But in 1991 during the first Gulf war (Desert Storm) Iowa class battleships played a significant role during Desert Storm.

Battleships Pulled Off The Biggest Ruse Of Operation Desert Storm



During Operation Desert Storm, a creative war plan was put into action that aimed at making Saddam’s forces think that a massive beach landing on the Kuwaiti coastline was imminent. A pivotal component of this ruse was extremely heavy shelling that only the USS Missouri and USS Wisconsin’s 16 inch guns could provide.

Before we get to these ships’ participation in the feint that would lead to a historically rapid 100 hour ground war, it must be made clear that this was not their only contribution to the war. Far from it actually. Both ships would provide key combat capabilities during Desert Storm. These included precision strikes on Iraqi bunkers and installations miles inland with their 16 inch guns, assisting in clearing minefields, using their Pioneer drones to reconnoiter Kuwait for Iraqi targets and troop movements, just to name a few. Additionally, the Wisconsinwould also serve as the anti-surface warfare command ship for the Northern Persian Gulf Surface Action Group.


On February 3rd, the Wisconsin fulfilled her first call for naval gunfire support since 1952 when she rippled off eleven 16 inch shells over 20 miles at an Iraqi artillery position in southern Kuwait. The fire support was coordinated by a Marine OV-10 Bronco. Like the big Battleships, the Broncos would prove their worth despite their age and supposed obsolescence during the conflict.

The only issue is that they really needed to Iraqis to believe, for certain, that the onslaught would be coming from the east instead of the southwest. As such, coalitions planners needed to put on a real spectacle that would make Iraqi commanders believe a beach invasion was imminent, and just some air strikes wouldn’t do. With this in mind they called up their biggest guns available to continuously bombard the supposed beach head to be, the two Iowa Class battleships in-theater, the Wisconsin and Missouri.

As the shelling began, the ship’s Pioneer unmanned aircraft that spotted targets for the Missouri’s 16 inch guns buzzed overhead in the dark between shells detonating all over the coastline. The initial diversionary bombardment of the shore was both terrifying and demoralizing for the dug-in Iraqi troops.

After Missouri’s initial sustained shelling of the island, Wisconsin sent its Pioneer buzzing over Iraqi heads in preparation for another barrage, during which Iraqi soldiers could be seen looking up blindly into the air waving makeshift white flags signaling their surrender.

It would be the first time an enemy surrendered to an unmanned vehicle and a testament as to how brutally powerful the Battleships’ main battery were, even in the modern era of so called “smart warfare.”

The next day, the USS Missouri was escorted by the frigate USS Jarrett and the Royal Navy destroyer HMS Gloucester within ten miles of the Kuwaiti coast to provide gunfire support for advancing coalition troops. Another Marine assault feint occurred on the 25th, when 10 USMC helicopters executed a nighttime assault ruse near the port of Ash Shuaybah, supported by the guns of the“Mighty Mo.” The event spurred the Iraqis into firing a Silkworm anti-ship missile at the massive Battleship.

The first of two missiles fired lost its tracking on the ship due to chaff fired off by the small flotilla, and landed between the Missouri and the Jarrett. The second was detected almost two dozen miles out as it launched from the shoreline. It was tracking flying directly toward the Missouri. The HMS Gloucester identified the missile as hostile and rippled off two Sea Dart surface-to-air missiles, blasting it out of the sky.

An E-2C Hawkeye was monitoring the attack and quickly leveraged other surveillance assets in an attempt to target the Silkworm missile launch site. Once located, the Hawkeye directed A-6E Intruders to take it out under a high-priority strike order. They successfully did just that under heavy anti-aircraft artillery and missile fire. No less than a dozen Mk20 Rockeye cluster munitions were lobbed onto the missile’s launch site. It was totally destroyed.

This event was not only the single anti-air naval missile engagement of the war, but it was also a sign of things to come as far as time sensitive targeting and tightly knit joint operations. During the exchange there was a somewhat mysterious but not deadly friendly fire event. Supposedly the USS Jarret’s Close In Weapon System cued on the chaff cloud that was expelled by the Missouri as a countermeasure during the Iraqi missile attack, and 20mm rounds ended up striking the Battleship even though it was over two miles away. Nobody died in the incident but there was one injury and questions as to how the system cued on the chaff when it is designed not to do so.

In the end, the marine landing never happened and the feint allowed the coalition ground forces to surprise Saddam’s military by swooping into Iraq just west of the Kuwaiti border. Meanwhile, other allied mechanized units would blitzkrieg through the desolate deserts of southern Iraq, destroying anything that opposed them. Within 100 hours the ground war would be over and Iraq would have capitulated defeat.

During the Wisconsin’s eight months in the Persian Gulf, she had flown 348 UAV hours, had 661 safe helicopter landings, steamed 46,000 nautical miles, fired 319 16 inch gun rounds, 881 5-inch rounds, 5,200 20 mm Phalanx CIWS rounds.,and launched 24 Tomahawk cruise missiles. The Missouri had destroyed 15 naval mines, fired a total of 759 16 inch shells and launched 28 Tomahawk cruise missiles... https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/battleships-pulled-off-the-biggest-ruse-of-operation-de-1754104974

 

Not the newest ones according to some, but we won't really know because it's a classified project and like I said they're putting the newest design on a ship for sea trials. Sea trials usually means they're at the end of development

 

We will need to be able to carry military operations in orbit, in the not-too-distant-future. Count on it. The President sees further than does the left....just like Reagan did with SDI...ridiculed and mocked by the left, just like this, which was the start of our current satellite targeting/guidance systems...

 

There was never going to be a beach assault during the Gulf War. The whole thing was a ruse.

Why would you launch a beach assault against a defender beach when you have helicopters and LCACs and can land where the enemy isn’t defending?

The Marines aren’t going to be fighting the battle of Iwo Jima again and it’s was 100% right to eliminate obsolete battleships.

Even the dredged sand islands the Chinese are building aren’t going to be filled with dug in bunkers (they’d flood for one) and any defenses they do have would get the hell beaten out of them with cruise missiles and smart bombs before any (uncontested) landing.

 

Tell that to the EM catapults on the Ford.

 

The left also hated Hitler, but it's thanks to him that we have rocket technology. Buncha silly socialist ingrates. Will they ever learn?

 

Well actually he isn't and never was. He lied his way into Forbes 500 and his wealth is a house of cards propped up by monetizing being famous for being famous and investor cash.