Trump thought Turkey was bluffing and would never actually invade Syria, report says

Trump threw no one overboard.

RECKLESS BLUNDERER STRIKES AGAIN: Turkey agrees with U.S. to pause Syria assault while Kurds withdraw.

 

You'd better catch-up. Fighting continues and Erdogan announced today that once all of the Kurds were gone, he plans to resettle the occupied border area with several million Turks. Guess he figured if Netanyahu can do it, why can't I?

 

Solid analysis.

 

Here's thing. From a political standpoint, the notion of removing US troops from a dangerous region is a good idea.

But trump sells it as "bring them home" when he just deployed them to a different region and then sent another 1200 to a different country in the middle east.

And more importantly, you dont withdraw and leave your allies on a ****ing whim. You demand more time and then give your allies a chance to defend themselves.

 

Jesus man. They didnt agree to a cease fire and they already violated the cease fire that Pence alleged was in place. And then they used chemical weapons on top of that!

Meanwhile trump, once again, back stabbed his allies on a ****ing whim.

 

Turkey has already broke the "cease fire", to which they never agree existed in the first place.

 

it's not broken yet.. Kurds fighters had 120 hours to get out, gotta expect not all of them are going willingly.. so yeah... you have other people rooting for the cease fire to be broken, too.

Seems the Norks have been much quieter than usual for a couple of years now....too.

 

Listened to a commentary by a former DoD or State person who oversaw our operations in the area. He said that as we approached the final ISIS strongholds, there were three choices: 1) Let the Turks invade and take over the final push or 2) deploy 10K-15K U.S. forces or 3) arm the Kurds. Trump decided to arm the Kurds (increasing their armaments for the final push). Now, he's abandoning them, because they don't help him today. That betrayal is going to cost him his reelection, even if he survives being ousted from office via impeachment...IMO.

 

Yes, and fleeing Kentucky for Tennessee?

 

Jeeze, enough with the fake news:

Erdogan demanded a 20-mile buffer zone along the border free from Kurdish control so that he could repatriate Turkey’s many millions of Syrian refugees. He was prepared to use force to make it happen, and did in fact end up using force.

 

"Cease fire"
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/18/middleeast/syria-turkey-ceasefire-violations-intl/index.html

And by norks, I assume you mean NK?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/11/world/asia/north-korea-missile-test.html

 

That should have been negotiated and, with strong leadership, we could have made that negotiation happen. Instead, Trump threw the people who fought ISIS under the bus. Everything he touches dies.

 

That's ridiculous. During the 7 years that Obama had forces here, a half million people were killed and he never got a ceasefire in place and you never said squat. Now, in 72 hours, Trump has withdrawn our troops to safety, has a cease fire in place and NOW you lose your mind?

 

I believe we were fighting ISIS earlier by supporting democratic rebellion forces in Syria. According to Trump, he paid and supplied the Kurds to fight ISIS, instead of us. Then, he betrayed them when he no longer needed them. Pretty much his MO. He escaped personal bankruptcy by treating his investors and contractors basically the same way. I suppose there are some people who would call that "being clever."

 

That makes them mercenaries, not Treaty allies.

He arranged for a 5 day ceasefire so they could remove themselves from the 20 mile buffer at Turkey's border. That is not "abandoning them."

Turkey is a Treaty Ally.

The PKK is a specially designated terrorist organization. The PKK is responsible for killing tens of thousands of Turks during a bloody civil war.

 

The ceasefire does not seem to be holding. And, Erdogan is saying he's planning to "resettle" the Kurdish lands, he's now occupying with Trump's approval.
The Kurds were our allies in the war on ISIS. Trump betrayed them...ask them. Turkey is a NATO ally...but have broken international law in attacking Syria. They may not be a NATO member for long...and have been generally condemned by the other NATO nations, save the United States. The PKK is a problem, which should have been negotiated...you know...by the Greatest Negotiator of All Time...the guy who wrote "The Art of the Deal."

 

Trump never approved this. And he was never authorized by Congress to do the military buildup that would be necessary to hold that territory against a Turkish advance.

The Kurds were already fighting ISIS, and losing, when we began to assist them, and they started winning.

No he didn't. Congress did not authorize him to engage Turkey to protect the Syrian Border. Funny how the Left is so against US troops defending our border, but they want US troops to defend the Syrian border against the our NATO ally, the Turks.

Gee, and yet, not a peep out of the UN. Why is that?

He did negotiate them five days to clear the 20 mile buffer at the Turkish border.

If you want Trump to get into a shooting war with the Turks, appeal to Congress to authorize that.

 

Hahahaha...you're blaming the President's decision on Congress? Who did he call in Congress, prior to his decision to withdraw U.S. forces to accommodate the Turkish invasion? The U.N. Security Council can't pass a resolution without the approval of the United States.