Trump to NFL owners: Fire players who kneel during anthem

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  1. stuntman

    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    "Racism" deos not exist. It is a pseudo-scientific term.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    No you did not. You ducked what you actually said in the post and instead substituted a totally different claim with which I agreed. It was a rather lame attempt that probably only fooled yourself.

    The logic you used on your original post was basically if A supports B, and A supports C then B and C are the same. Sorry but that doesn't make sense and neither does your rational for equating disrespect for the flag with racism.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Actually your memory is faulty. I agreed that was hate speech. Also said it had nothing to do with kneeling while the anthem is played. You seem to be having serious memory issues, been to a doctor recently?

    You might want to refresh your " memory" by reading post #605.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Provide any data to substantiate the claim that Democrats create poor people.
     
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    Technically that is true. Its root "race" is no longer considered a scientific term.

    however, common useage has both maintained the original flawed definition of racism as categorization by visible characteristics as well as coming to mean bigotry against any large ethnic group.
     
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    Thank goodness one can still be specist toward all of humanity. Problem is, everyone still requires a word for "categorization by visible characteristics", "bigotry against any large entire ethnic group", etc, and attempting to remove language necessary to describe the behavior is right out of the Hopeless Bigot Playbook.
     
  8. Fred C Dobbs

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    "Common usage", chiefly by Leftists, now means that 'racism' means anything they want it to mean. They still go by their feelings rather than facts, and this is another good example.
     
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    I see you aren't a student of etymology.

    racism is now a synonym for bigot and yes I am well aware that all racists are bigots but not all bigots are racist.

    amazing how you can so readily ascribe absolutely anything in you take issue with to "leftists".
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In fact it's a hobby. I also understand how the meaning of words can be twisted from their intended meaning into something quite different.. It's often called "Orwellian"
    No, it is not. Like most leftists you probably do not understand the meaning of 'racist' or 'bigot' and will consistently confuse race with culture and ethnicity. That you may want the world to mean something else in order to give it greater impact does not change the meaning of the word. It only demonstrates your own limited knowledge of the English language and points out a lack of critical thinking.
    You cannot be 'aware' if the meaning of these words are as unclear to you as they seem to be.
    It's not as difficult as you may believe.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course - just take the use of the term "liberal" by american conservatives. It etomology is a hobby, then surely you are familiar with the fact that semantic meaning can drift with common useage which itself is spurred by any number of contemporary events.

    The drift in the meaning of racism stems from the simple fact that not all bigots are racist but all racists are bigots and common useage made them more or less synonomous within the lexicon.




    Gimme a break and stop with the demonstrably false strawman. I sure as hell know the difference between a racist and a bigot as I have expressed MANY TIMES on this forum. I have PROUDLY declared my own bigotries and LOUDLY denounced racism.


    I get it you said etomology was a hobby of yours, but you didn't tell me you know little to nothing about it.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As mentioned many, including you it seems, don't understand the difference between race, culture and ethnicity. The fact that you find these terms interchangeable under the heading of 'race' only demonstrates your lack of understanding of the English language, as well as a general laziness. You are a victim of the educational system but probably did well in the area of self-esteem.
    Yes, you claim to know the difference but if you don't understand the difference between ethnicity, race, and culture - and have have made the decision to use words you claim to have come into 'general usage' instead- then your claim is meaningless, just as your use of 'racism' - because of its overuse in incorrect situations - has become meaningless.

    You can't claim to say one word has changed to suit your purpose without having the meaning of related words, and more apt words, change as well. Your 'more or less' approach toward the meaning of words is what tends to make leftists arguments so weak.
     
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    And you arent aware of any connection between the two...correct?
     
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    (Black Labs Matter. An issue we shouldn't duck.)
     
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    Alzheimers, yes I am aware of your connection
     
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    Funny, but that has absolutly nothing to do the claim that Democrats create poor people. Either you can't read or you you don't understand what you read. The challenge was to provide evidence of the idiotic claim that Democrats create poor people. That article has nothing to do with that.
     
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    You forgot to use a period. Bad grammar.
     
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    In your opinion. I love you too, dear. And you're so right, there are clearly no poor people in Puerto Rico and the Dems have really gone out of their way to help the people there. No connection. Nada. Zippo.
    Read instead of just reacting stupidly next time.
     
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    "Racism" does not exist. "Racism" is a pseudo-scientific term. "Races" cant be categorized by visible characteristics since there are no evidences for that. Visible characteristics do not use to define "races".
     
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    spot on!
     
  21. Grumblenuts

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    Simple, reactionary "denial" does not exist. "Denial" is a pseudo-scientific term. "Denials" cant be categorized by visible characteristics since there are no evidences for that. Invisible characteristics do not use to define "denials".
    For more such gibberish and horrid abuses of the English language, see AlphaOmega, Fred C. Dobbs, stuntman, and countless others here clearly worried about their penis size far more than anything halfway meaningful, useful, or interesting. Think otherwise? You're wrong! Take that, wanker!
     
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    Let me rephrase that Democrat policies create poor people. Also answer my question, what is the result of the trillions spent on the war on poverty?
    Look at food stamp use, throw out 2009 and 10 if you'd like because of the recession, the stimulus was enacted about then and according to experts the recession was well over.
     
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    And maybe you should explain what that has to do with the stupid claim that Democrats create poor people. I understand you cannot actually support the claim so it might be more prudent for you to keep silent instead of posting irrelevent articles. Or you could actually look up the word " create" before continuing to post silliness.
     
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    You seem fixated on that pseudo- scientific nonsense. The word denial has an accepted meaning in the English language. Learn to use a dictionary.
     
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    OK, post any evidence that Democratic policies create poor people. And it can be simply argued that the trillions spent on the war on proverty has prevented the creation of more poverty. You cannot prove otherwise.

    And if you want to discuss wasted money consider what we have gotten for our vastly over inflated military budget or for the war on drugs.
     

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