Trump to Russia: 'Get ready' for US missile attack

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  1. goody

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    I tell you.
     
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    It isn't clear what he is blaming it on. The tweet is similar to others where he blamed Democrats and the Mueller investigation. It also brings up an "arms race" that Trump seems to be promoting the most.

    Like a lot of what Trump says and posts, it is very unclear, but particularly odd following the "Get ready Russia" tweet.
     
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    Russian tv has apparently been telling people what to pack for a bomb shelter in case war breaks out with the US over Syria but to 'keep calm'

    https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/04/m...lter-as-tensions-run-high-with-us-over-syria/

    meanwhile independent news sites on Syria are saying they are getting taken off line (censored)
     
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    Netanyahoo supported Al Qaeda in Syria - while the US, Saud, Turkey and others transferred high-powered weapons to these terrorists - in conjunction with Israel.

    Now the Israeli Defense Minister said this:
    Is it just me or is this not abject hypocrisy ?
     
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    Oh, it is the same kind of hypocrisy that my nation is guilty of, 24/7. Israel demands its own sovereignty, although we will give ours away to banksters and MNCs in these free trade agreements, evidenced, by...evidence. lol But that US sovereignty does not matter as long as we are not invaded by a military force. But in the interest of our elites, fine, it is all good.

    Israel does not want syria to remain under assad. For they see that Iran can come through iraq, across syria, and supply hezbollah in Lebanon. So israel wants syria to remain in chaos, if assad cannot be taken down. And then broken up to their benefit. That seems to be the plan unless we invade syria to take down assad ourselves. Israel would love this of course.

    Of course Israel given their military and US support have nothing to worry about, and yet they worry?
     
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    Calling their acts and words abject hypocrisy is being generous and kind to them. In the meantime, the Israeli defense minister has been told to keep his mouth shut.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/as-te...imb-netanyahu-calls-in-top-defense-officials/
     
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    The hypocrisy is blinding. In a rare instance of "news" in the News - Turker Carlson on Fox talked about how there is no evidence that Assad. He also questioned what our interest was in this mess.

    When Baby Bush came in the deficit was near zero and Total Military Spending was 300 Billion. 8 years later the total spend eclipsed 900 Billion.

    We are already forecasting a deficit of 1 Trillion .. and now we are potentially ramping up the war effort in Syria. So happy day - lets bankrupt ourselves on the basis of a false flag.
     
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    I wonder about Tucker. He used to be an establishment kind of talking head. But since he got his show, he actually brings up points that MSM blacks out and will never question. I developed new respect for the man. Someone in the media needs to question the BS and propaganda, and who does? MSM seems to work for the establishment, and will not speak truth to power nor question the BS propaganda at all!
     
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    Well no kidding. The claim that Iran "might" transferring "high powered" weapons to Hezbollah is in stark contrast to the fact that so far - after decades of conflict Iran has not done this. In fact in recent years Iran has reduced (if not eliminated) its state sponsorship of the radical Palestinian groups. There have been aid groups within Israel providing funds on a "humanitarian" basis to the Palestinians but not state sponsorship.

    If Israel wants to have a war so badly - Iran and Syria may well start providing Hezbollah with "high powered weapons".
     
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    It is clear and I'm sure Vlad the Invader got the message. If not, it looks like our Navy will spell it out for him later.
     
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    IMO, if Russia returns fire, it will be more against US bases in Syria rather than on the US fleet.
     
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    You can be sure that whatever Trump does is cleared by AIPAC & intended to benefit Israel......like last time:

    “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”

    AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003
     
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    The reports from Israel and elsewhere suggest the target was an advanced air defense system being established to help Syria protect its air space from Israeli intrusion.

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...-was-the-iranian-air-force-compound-1.5990918
    Syria Strike Target Identified: Air Force Compound Under Exclusive Iranian Control

    see also:
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/iranian-media-posts-photos-of-syrian-base-allegedly-bombed-by-israel/
    Iranian media posts photos of Syrian base allegedly bombed by Israel

    Images claim to show destroyed hangars and equipment at T-4 site near Palmyra
     
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    He is going to come out smelling like a rose (assuming he manages to keep his Job - the track record of previous peers who challenged the Establishment false narrative is not good ) if this mess in Syria spirals out of control.

    Notice it is almost exactly the same playbook as Iraq. Hyped up claims of WMD as justification for War/false flag.
    Same for the first attack of Iraq under Bush Sr - the "babies in incubators" lie - another false flag.
    Vietnam .. same thing - false flag.

    Looking into the crystal ball - if the past is any predictor of the future - we could see the military effort in Syria increase.
     
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    The Paleshtino Jihado Arabo Islamo will not like this ... But YES Mr. Trump !
    Kick some a$$ of those who use chemical weapons.
     
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    Well I detailed in another thread why I believed that any attack would not be about any chemicals but rather to help Israel and in particular with the hope of getting Iran involved so that they could try and destroy them.

    However this has changed a bit with Russia saying it will fire back not just at the weapons but at their source which presumably would make the US and Russia at war.

    Macron has made a big point that they have no intention on hitting anything but Syrian Chemical Sites and will leave Syrians allies well alone and the UK has not committed .....but Trump appears to believe he is still a child playing a game and wants to attack asap.
     
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    And I agree completely. Some of us are just not subject to developing a complete amnesia of our past. And we get called putin puppets for not having amnesia, and keeping up with such matters.

    Personally I do not give a damn about putin or russia. But I do care about my own gov't who acts in my name. And I hate what they are doing, and have done, and obviously will continue to do. It is wrong from a moral point of view. And I value morality, honesty and integrity. Which is unheard of these days. Or rare.
     
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    And then sounds really deranged:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verifizierter Account @realDonaldTrump 2 Std.Vor 2 Stunden
    Much of the bad blood with Russia is caused by the Fake & Corrupt Russia Investigation, headed up by the all Democrat loyalists, or people that worked for Obama. Mueller is most conflicted of all (except Rosenstein who signed FISA & Comey letter). No Collusion, so they go crazy!
     
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    The entire policy of the US in Syria is about Iran and it has always been the same. Even before the Syrian civil war was unleashed on them, Assad was given a choice. Cut ties with Iran and Hezbollah and find himself in the good graces of those who later tried to unseat him, with even the prospects of getting back the Golan dangled before him. Or face what he has faced.

    The whole "Trump/Russia" stories emanate from the fact that before the election, a group of pro Israel figures in both Russia and the US, along with certain Israelis, had come up with this idea of an alliance between the US and Russia where the Russians would be given their due in Syria and even in near Russia (Ukraine), in return for joining efforts to kick Iran out of Syria and undermine and take out Iran. While the idea of taking out Iran sits well with traditional neocons, the idea of making friends with the Russians for this purpose doesn't. The whole neocon umbrella or alliance is basically an alliance between the military industrial complex and AIPAC Likudniks. To the former, ultimately, America's military budget and the perks they want needs a bigger enemy than just Iran and giving up Russia as that enemy wasn't something a good chunk of that coalition wanted. The whole idea has recently been put to rest and the military industrial complex has basically won over the AIPAC Likudniks. The Russian project is no longer being seriously pursued and that means the lines that are being drawn are becoming a bit more stark and clear. While the Russians were always open to the idea of betraying their tactical alliance with Iran in Syria, they are beginning to realize that -- whether they like it or not -- that alliance is the only thing they can count on.
     
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    I was talking about the research center guys, Trucks that are loaded with anti-aircraft stuff (SPAD), drone dudes, etc.
     
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    Yeah, but last time Russia sent troops near Deir ez zor didn't end too well. It was a Wagner disaster, remember?
     
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    I doubt that. That would be disproportionate. My guess is that if the Russian's do respond it will be as they say - against the sites from where the missiles were fired.

    The best result would be if Russia did not respond but I do not give that a high probability.
     
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    In the Russian blogosphere believe that he is either drunk or has an exacerbation of bipolar disorder.
     
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    IMO, there won't be a US strike in the first place. If something is to be done, expect a US "pawn" (such as France, GB or Israel) to do it rather than the US itself, and expect the said strike to be rather symbolic rather than authoritative. Trump's tweet about being about to strike must mean that he can't strike right now, probably because of resistance from the war councils. The twain - US and Russia - shall never meet directly.

    But I have been wrong before...
     
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