Trump: We Will Guard Our Border With Our Military

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  1. RichT2705

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    Yup, America doesn't want these people just walking right in. Trump was voted in to address it, and the people approve.
     
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    it seems the 2006 Obama could not necessarily empathize the plight of illegal Immigration affecting American citizens:
    “Native-born Americans suspect that it is they, and not the immigrant, who are being forced to adapt” to social changes caused by migration.
    “And if I’m honest with myself, I must admit that I’m not entirely immune to such nativist sentiments,” Obama wrote. “When I see Mexican flags waved at pro-immigration demonstrations, I sometimes feel a flush of patriotic resentment. When I’m forced to use a translator to communicate with the guy fixing my car, I feel a certain frustration.”​
    Yet Obama’s frustration seems now a thing of the past, with his refusal to enforce immigration law and recent flooding of the United States with tens of thousands of often disease-carrying illegal-alien minors and adults; this action has been implicated in the Enterovirus D68 outbreak in America during 2014, which has sickened thousands of citizens now in 2018, some of whom have suffered paralysis or even death.

     
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    Taxpayers are going to pay to secure our border whether it is a wall ( now actually more like a partial fence) or it is the military. Got to wonder how many years the military would have to stay on our borders to equal the cost of Trump's fence.
     
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    Given they are already paid, what is the cost differential vs them at the base?
     
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    And yet it's still cheaper than the cost we pay by letting people enter our country illegally and without restraint.
     
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    The more the corrupt bipartisan political class and its MSM attack Trump the higher his numbers climb.

    Ordinary Americans no longer believe the political establishment.
     
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    Please. You know that either the military personnel or the military budget or both will increase to compensate unless of course you are saying that most of the military aren't really doing anything anyway.
     
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    I asked a question that you did not answer.
     
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    The amount we spend on illegal immigration this year could buy 3 walls.
     
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    I am sure you can support either claim. Butbif thete is currently no restraint on illegals entering the country I guess we can eliminate a who lot of moneybwecare currenly wasting on border security.

    And so far I don't think anyone including Trump has claimed thst his wall is going to reduce other border security expenditures.
     
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    That is becuse there are no actual specifics about Trump's proposal. And there aren't any actual facts about the cost of the wall either given the governments record of massive cost overruns on projects.
     
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    Take the door off your house and you'll understand real quick why having a door is cheaper than not having one.
     
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    Better yet if you don't let them cross you don't have to sort them out with little info to work with.
     
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    Except building well and building on budget is the specialty of this POTUS.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    Stupid example. Where I live you could leave the door off forever and your only problem would be increased heating and AC.
     
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    So is screwing contractors but I doubt his past record of chicanery is going to work here. And unless he is going to build the eall with illegal immigrants his casino/ hotel experience is irrelevent.
     
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    No actually, he's not. Building and contracting has the highest incidence of dispute.

    If you think contractors are innocent little cherubs hire one to do your backyard and see how that works out for you.

    No, his building experience is not irrelevant with regards to a wall.
     
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    So you live in a nice, safe, conservative area is what you're saying.
     
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    Other than possibly an Amish area, where might it be safe in the USA to take the doors off the hinges and go off to work and rest at night?

    I'm just curious.
     
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    Places that are deeply conservative and everyone carries a gun, more than likely.

    That or one of those gated liberal communities with armed response teams to keep out the multiculturalism.
     
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    Somehow I doubt you can support thst with actual facts. But first givebus the actual cost of building the wall.
     
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    Anywhere rural where you can buy enough land and secure the access to your property!
     
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    The real kicker would be if they used Chinese steel in the wall like his hotels lol.
     
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    Even if you're really, really remote you still got to lock up enough to keep the raccoons from spoiling everything inside.

    Those battery operated electronic contraptions that sound like garbage can lids slamming together like cymbals will not stop them. Probably brings them.
     
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