Trump's approval rating at lowest for any president in their first year.

Now you be nice. After all VC has told us he's an Indo-American which by his own words means we should naturally assume he is educated.

But remember, that's not racist at all.

 

Trump is the most despised man in the Universe.

Sadly, Trump is tarnishing the USA's international reputation.

 

LOL, sure he is. Sure he is

 

WC loves polls that oversimple liberals.

Same company that did this poll on another Trump poll of theirs

Democrat 46
Republican 37

http://www.apnorc.org/PDFs/AP-NORC September 2017/AP Custom Poll Topline SEPTEMBER_presidency.pdf

And of course for this one:

PID1. Do you consider yourself a Democrat, a Republican, an independent or none of these? AP-NORC
12/7-11/2017
Democrat 34
Republican 22

http://www.apnorc.org/PDFs/AP-NORC December 2017/AP Custom Poll Topline December_Trump.pdf

Well hell with polls skewed that far to the left I'd trust them too!

Once again WC is exposed for his fake polls with biased samplings for a result he favors

 

No. These are polls that were right for the 2016 election,

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...rump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html

Final Results -- -- -- 48.2 46.1 3.3 1.1 Clinton +2.1
RCP Average 11/2 - 11/7 -- -- 45.5 42.2 4.7 1.9 Clinton +3.3

Please stop conflating Electoral Maps/Predictions with National Polling. It's not wise. Nothing you state will change the fact, on average, they were correct with a 1.2% error. The same goes for as back as RCP collects this data.

Saying you think my poll is wrong is not destroying someone. Electorate Maps are not National Polls. Weighting exists. I understand most right wing posters at this site do not understand how the most basic polls function, but please educate yourself on the matter.

You have to provide reputable citation (that contains data) that shows the specific methodology used by Gallup's weekly approval rating tracker is incorrect. You have to prove 538 and RCP's average and actual measures in rankings these reputable and widely used pollsters are all wrong.

Facts > Opinions.

You are citing methodology pages, but not providing valid citation on how those methodology pages are doing something wrong. This is called arm-chair theory. You're just showing me you do not understand how polling functions.

Gallup's 39% (of the OP) average 2017 results are consistent with the averages aggregates of all reputable pollsters,

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

(There are many more, but it won't fit in this post).

You are basically telling me that, on average, every pollster is wrong. I would need significant citation on this fact, with significant data sets. Mind you, these are pollsters that were all correct, on average, last year.

Furthermore,

1. Oversampling is normal practice, even expected.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...-to-study-small-groups-not-bias-poll-results/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oversampling
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2012/09/26/are_media_polls_oversampling_democrats_291216.html

2. Weighting exists.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...ll-results/ft-16-10-25_oversamplingweighting/
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21477404

3. Party Identification =/= Party Registration.


Please research more on how polling is done. In your opinion Gallup, CBS, QP, and others are inaccurate. But the data shows they are, in fact, accurate, butting a huge dent in your blogger theory:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...rump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html

Your opinion on oversampling and weighting are not important. Nor of some extreme right blogger who didn't do well in statistics. The facts and highly accurate result history on those methods are important.

Since I've explained these direct (not inferred, nor from blogs) facts many times, I can only assuming you guys are deliberately stating false information on how polls work to trick other posters.

 

Btw, Democrats were crying about the polls oversampling in 2004. They were being the ignoramuses back then, and Republicans had to explain to them how polls worked.

Pretty much the side who doesn't do so well in the Public Opinion is going to cry about oversampling, without knowing what it actually is or how political standing is different from political registration.


Poll Averages Have No History of Consistent Partisan Bias
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/poll-averages-have-no-history-of-consistent-partisan-bias/

Good data on this,

No, The Polls Aren't Oversampling Democrats
https://newrepublic.com/article/107813/no-the-polls-arent-oversampling-democrats

Every so often people have to release a slew of these simple educational articles when far right (or far left) bloggers get rowdy with their stupidity.

 

OP

It depends upon the demographic; according to a BBC tv prog I watched last night - and the BBC is no friend of The Donald - his current popularity (among those who voted for him, I admit) averaged out at about 84%. So despite all the juvenile crap we see on this forum day after day about 'turd polishing'; and 'orange', he must be doing something right?

 

Yes, it is well known he has high scores among his base. But his catering to his base so strongly and no one else may be why he has extremely low scores among D and I, resulting in overall a pretty bad average of 39%.

 

I wouldn't know because I don't live in the US - I can only go by reading between the lines of what I get from the BBC. Personally I don't think he's better or worse than any of the previous establishment presidents. In fact I can't recall one who distinguished himself in any particular way. They were all political pygmies and incompetent nonentities from what I conclude. Bit like our prime ministers!

 

https://www.axios.com/ice-preparing-for-1516150841-56bb4ea9-fbb3-4581-bc03-9b94de181bfc.html.
Looks like his popularity will be rising fast . Wait till they arrest the mayors of these sanctuary shitholes.

 

That's what happens when you stand up for America. If bowed down to the leftists and globalists, they'd love him.

 

Come on VC, don't you know polls don't matter unless they put the President in a positive light. After all he won the election by the biggest margin of any president in His-Story.

 

I guess you stand up when its convenient and you are safely out of harms way. Funny how he didn't stand when his country called for him to serve.

 

Are you telling us if that if 60% of Americans say we should trust Iran or Assad in Syria and provide them weapons that you would agree?

Then what difference does it make what Americans think? The first 30 state referendums during Obama's years on allowing gay marriage were all voted down soundly by the public, including in liberal California and Oregon. But then a few years later the courts got involved and started forcing changes. Did not take another year or so (with huge media influence of course) that the public now became decidedly in favor of gay marriage. Why? How easily can people (who really have no idea what it's all about or what's at stake) are swayed. So why in the world should I care what a person like that thinks about anything?

This nation is a slave to the mainstream media and the mainstream media is a slave to the DNC, liberal positions and anti-Christian positions. So pardon us if we do not care what a majority thinks.

 

Still can't read your own links can you.

In a December poll by the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research,

Guess where I got my information from

You blew it again because you didn't read the sampling which isn't surprising of course since you loved the results. Thanks for showing once again you can't admit when you are wrong.

No one cares if you don't like reality because it doesn't change it.


I do love the argument of going back to 2004 to defend the polls when last year was the worst record for polling of all time which of course you are using now

And what a shocker you use a far left website like fivethirtyeight and Nate Silver who worked for the Daily Kos to defend the polling already busted for oversampling.

And your other link is yet another far left website to defend the polls and they had to go back to 2012

LOL You just love digging that hole don't you?

 

I believe I said you Trumpers only believe the ones that put your God in a positive light.

Yea I know its all the mainstream media, DNC, liberals, anti-Christians, blah, blah, blah. The heroes in all this is Trump, RNC, conservativism, the true Christians, the true Patriots, blah, blah, blah.

 

IOW, you just have a hard time admitting the truth and instead choose to avoid the charges or the facts. Top to bottom, intelligent to obtuse, I see nothing on the left that is honest or willing to admit they are wrong on anything. Secular humanism has replaced God in their minds.

 

lol, nobody will be arrested

 

That coming from a Trumper is comical at best.

You can change left to right in that statement and you have the same thing. LOL.

 

In other words, when it comes to a defense of the charges leveled --- you got nothing.
And silence or diverting the topic are the only ways to protect those egos.

 

I'm not here to argue the accuracy of polls, I'm saying I don't put much stock in them, mostly because my opinion on issues is not influenced by whether or not others agree with me.

To put a lot of stock in polls I would also have to put a lot of stock in the opinions of those being polled in general. I might be more interested in a poll of my peers, but these generic polls are nothing more than amusement. It's like asking if I would weight a welfare queen's opinion as highly as a fellow business owner's.

 

.................and you believe you've got something. I have no ego to protect, because unlike you I don't fall into trying to defend the right or the left. I see them both equally.

 

The fact you will not directly answer the charges tells me that is all you are doing, protecting your reputation. What a surprise.
What's wrong with left?, they do not believe in God or care what He has to say. What a surprise.

 

Thread winnar

 

There are no charges to answer. I have yet to hear you answer why the President thinks its ok to just walk up to a woman and grab her *****. Then in the next breath the woman who have charged him with sexual harassment are labeled lying whores. Care to explain that.

The same thing that is wrong with the right.

The right believes in God when its convenient, but behind closed doors or in the dark those believes are thrown in the closet.