Trump's crazy designation of Antifa as terrorist organization

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Should Antifa be designated a terrorist organization

  1. Yes - the blood of many innocents is on the hands of ANTIFA

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  2. No - I can't recall too many deaths of innocents by ANTIFA

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Boston Tea party was a small unified group that did damage to make a political statement.
    The Protesters are a large in numbers and diverse - some of which are doing damage to make a political statement.

    By en large the protesters are not terrorizing people.

    Once again you can't see the forest for the trees - making up things as you go because you can not deal with reality.
     
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    And the Boston Tea Party participants would have been arrested and prosecuted if they had been caught
     
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    What we call them is immaterial. What we do about them is what matters. I would go after them the same way I would go after MS13. But I have no power to do so.
     
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    Yes, if I lived in a city I would certainly fear anybody that organizes riots. People get killed in them.
     
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    I gave you the legal definition of terrorism. That is the only one that matters in this discussion of Trumps actions
     
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    A lot of people are arrested who aren't violent terrorists like Antifa.
     
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    If your business is looted and burned it’s not a political statement to you, it’s terrorism
     
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    It is just a word. Politicians misuse them all the time. Get over it. It doesn't matter.
     
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    The Boston Tea Party was an act of revolution and it was directed at an official government policy. We do not have an official government policy that it’s okay to murder blacks.,
     
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    What does CCW mean?
     
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    Confirmation of the binary thought. TY.

    Violence in never, ever the answer.
     
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    That is certainly something to fear .. especially when the people you might call for help (Police) you believe to be terrorists.
     
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    I posted a legal definition of terrorism in one of my posts as well. As stated previously - there are many.

    Nice that you posted a legal definition but what is it that you would like to say in reference to your definition ?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't think the Brits had an official Gov't policy to murder blacks either - regardless - there are official Gov't policies that the protest are directed at.
     
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    These riots and protests are about one criminal psychopath cop killing a black man which is not government policy
     
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    No your definition in your OP was your own. I gave you the US law definition of terrorism which Trump used to declare Anitfa a terrorist organization.
     
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    These riots and protests are about more than a cop killing a black man. Thinking this was the only thing the protests is the first mistake you need to correct on your path to enlightenment.

    Step 2 would be figuring out what Gov't policy the protesters are protesting

    Step 3 is then to recognize how silly your initial comment was.
     
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    The definition in the OP was given as a Possible definition. In later posts a legal definition (with link) is given.

    The US definition of Terrorism is a laughable joke - which changes with the wind.

    Some have compared Antifa to Al Qaeda which is mindless nonsense.

    Regardless - if Antifa is a terrorist organization - what does that make the Pentagon which is 100x worst than anything Antifa has done.
     
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    "Concealed Carry Weapon". Right now, each state has their own laws regarding carrying concealed weapons. "National CCW" would be a federal law that either mandates reciprocity among the states, or in some versions perhaps sets a federal standard for CCW that applies to all states.

    ETA: in short "the best cure for groups that want to terrorize citizens with street beatings would be" for citizens to be armed with firearms for deterrence of and defense against Antifa terrorists.
     
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    Feel free to enlighten us. What official government policy is being protested?
     
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    Despite your personal opinion on the US legal definition of terrorism that is what Trump based his action upon and ANTIFA meets that legal definition in every way .That is the proper and legal procedure for the president to take.
     
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    There are many - that you can not come up with even one - says much about your understanding of the issue. Further - it is not just policy but includes bad law and bad legislation.

    For example - the doctrine of "Qualified Immunity".
     
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    The peaceful protesters aren't the issue...by by in large they are being drowned out by the violent left wing terrorist group. They are the problem...they have destroyed millions of dollars of property, looted, fire bombed, assaulted and even killed....
     
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    Trump based his action on his Social Darwinist beliefs .. labeling Antifa a terrorist group renders the label meaningless.
     
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    Why is the doctrine of qualified immunity being protested???? that makes no sense. If you think you have a case against someone that raises it....file your case...it's easy to get around if you have a real case.
     

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