Trump's crazy designation of Antifa as terrorist organization

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Should Antifa be designated a terrorist organization

  1. Yes - the blood of many innocents is on the hands of ANTIFA

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  2. No - I can't recall too many deaths of innocents by ANTIFA

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  1. Lucifer

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    White supremacists pose as Antifa online, call for violence

    New York (CNN Business)A Twitter account that tweeted a call to violence and claimed to be representing the position of "Antifa" was in fact created by a known white supremacist group, Twitter said Monday. The company removed the account.

    "This account violated our platform manipulation and spam policy, specifically the creation of fake accounts," a Twitter spokesperson said in a statement. "We took action after the account sent a Tweet inciting violence and broke the Twitter Rules."
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    The fake account, @ANTIFA_US, tweeted Sunday, "ALERT Tonight's the night, Comrades Tonight we say "F**k The City" and we move into the residential areas... the white hoods.... and we take what's ours #BlacklivesMaters #F**kAmerica."
    Twitter said that the account was in fact linked to Identity Evropa, a white power fraternity.

    Though Twitter referred to the group as Identity Evropa when discussing the account's removal, the Anti Defamation League (ADL) states that the group dissolved and reformed under the name the American Identitarian Movement, which it also calls a white supremacist group.

    Just wait and see, we're going to see more of this.
     
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    And more details here:
    White nationalist group posing as antifa called for violence on Twitter

    SNIP

    Similar "hidden viral" text messages went viral at the beginning of the coronavirus outbreak in the U.S., with messages claiming that the institution of martial law was imminent, vaguely citing friends or co-workers.

    American officials later claimed that the texts were boosted by Chinese disinformation agents to spread panic.

    Russell said hostile foreign governments frequently "look at opportunities to make it seem as though there is an infrastructure failure" during times of crisis.

    "This is a common thing for foreign disinformation agents," Russell said. "They would be trying to get people to believe that things are much worse on the ground than they are."
     
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    Of course ... who expects anything other than the new, chosen, evil enemy of Trump and his fans ... China ... who is behind it.
    A few months ago it would have been Iran, a few months before Russia and before that North Korea ...
    But hey ... maybe it's all together who have formed an alliance called ANTIFA (Anti Fu ** ing America), of course everything financed by Soros and Gates and politically supported by the evil Democrats.

    The point that there might be a few white righty nationalist Morons with a red MAGA cap on the head behind this fake news wave ... or even indirectly Trump as King of Fake News is completely out of the question ...

    P.S.
    That the USA has proven to have done so many times in other countries and continues to do what China is now accused of ... we better leave this fact out.
    That was already the case with the evil accusation against Russia of interfering in the US elections at the time ... also something the USA has done dozens of times around the world, for example in Russia after the end of the Cold War. ..
     
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  4. struth

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    I am not...those left wing terrorist groups have already been labeled domestic terrorist

    trump has said nothing different about these events then he did cville. There are good peaceful protestors and then terrorist
     
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    By investigating. Just like we did with the dems kkk
     
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    It's dangerous to you because you like antifa. They are seditious. They use violence to promote political ideas by every definition they're terrorists.

    But go ahead and defend them and pretend you're not really doing it.

    Cannot do that would make me think there was an honest leftist in the world.
     
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    Come on dude you know why. It's because they support antifa they like what they stand for.

    They're never going to tell you this because I think everyone else has way dumber than they really are.

    Some people are really dumb that's how they manipulate them into being in antifa
     
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    Come on dude antifa is white supremacists they're like 90% white people and they run around spray-painting black lives matter all over everything so that black people get blamed for it.

    Everyone knows you accused someone of what you're guilty of to try and throw the scent off of you.
     
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    No, if their only goal is to complete a crime. If they want to motivate people to do something they don't want to do, affect politics or some other similar thing, then the criminal is a terrorist.
     
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    Only to those who fear them.
     
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    O really? And what is about all these rghty extremist scum please?

    And yes ... Trump said yesterday this with peaceful protestors and then terrorists! And on same day the police attacks those really peaceful protestors in DC in front of his white painted house ... great!
    And how long are the riots and protest going on please until his majesty Trump I is so kind to give some words as above and how long did he need for Charlottesville again ... when these people electing him too, were the evil one?

    Come on ... wake up!
     
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    Spoken like a true anti capitalism anarchist.
     
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    The Boston Tea Party actors threw tea overboard from three ships, hardly comparable to the terror group Antifa's riots and random destruction.
     
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    Your definition is your own and not the legal definition of terrorism.
    Thread over.

    According to 6 USCS § 101, the term terrorism is "any activity that--

    (A) involves an act that--

    (i) is dangerous to human life or potentially destructive of critical infrastructure or key resources; and

    (ii) is a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State or other subdivision of the United States; and

    (B) appears to be intended--

    (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

    (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or

    (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping."


    https://definitions.uslegal.com/t/terrorism/
     
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    like who?
    unite the right only became violent when antifa showed up.
     
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    Which ones?

    Yes, the President said nothing different about C-Ville as he has said about this...there are terrorist and there are peaceful protesters.

    The SS used tear gas to get people to leave a location that wouldn't leave when ordered to.

    I am really trying to respond to your post, but it's not making much sense.
     
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    Huh? I was referring to the founders colonist that didn’t have represention
     
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    Hey - is that you Poly - in the corner murmuring unintelligible gibberish to yourself again :)
     
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    The system can work fast whenever it is inclined to do that. No new laws are required.
    Equal application of the laws we already have would be good.
    Repealing half the criminal statutes now on the books would be also very good start toward real criminal justice reform.
     
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    Clearly you must fear them ... as you have defined them as "Terrorists"
     
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    Joe ! nice of you to drop by and engage in the meaningless name calling and Ad Hom that you are so well known for :)
     
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    How do you know that all the people protesting and rioting are "Antifa".

    Boston Tea is quite comparable - you just have nothing to say so you say nothing.
     
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    If you do your homework - you will find that there are many definitions of terrorism .. some of which is given in later posts.
     
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    No it isn't, see post #188. They were making a political statement, not terrorizing the population.
     
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    That distinction was not clear from your post, but I still think applying the same label to AntiFa that we have applied to ISIS and Al Queda is a mistake. There are very effective laws to deal with corrupt criminal enterprises and organizations - odd that they are not used against AntiFa.

    Of course the best cure for groups that want to terrorize citizens with street beatings would be national CCW.
     
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