Trump's Raids are meant to terrorize Americans. So I decided to help stop this.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Golem, Jul 14, 2019.

  1. PrincipleInvestment

    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

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    I gave you the cities od Chicago, and Minneapolis ... and EVERY city in the sanctuary state of California. You can add EVERY city in New Jersey. (D)'s = open borders.
     
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    The op is very confused

    The raids are rounding up foreigners who living in America illegally

    and have had their day in court and lost

    They may be terrified but they arent Americans
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Even the dolphins are fleeing California.
     
  4. Pipette8

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    What's makes you think you are so supreme that you should lecture other adults on anything?
     
  5. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Private companies have authority to enforce ANY laws, not sure how you plan to make that happen.

    You are a liberal, or possibly worse, folks like you would have handed the Supreme Court over to Hillary Clinton because whatever loser you backed in the primaries failed. That's far more reprehensible than just being a run of the mill liberal shill. Although you come off as way more a liberal shill than anything else...
     
  6. LangleyMan

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    What does this mean? I proposed a system based on technology we use today (the Nexus Pass) to protect our borders, that companies and individuals can easily and inexpensively enforce, that can be used to replace the Social Security card, and most important will stop illegals from getting work in this country.
    Get a clue. Stop making up BS.
    I didn't back a Democrat.
    A liberal is going to propose a e-verify system like the one I mentioned? Yeah, sure...

    Why don't you get onboard with something that will work?
     
  7. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Border control and protection is the sole purview of the federal government, if that's the case for sanctuary cities, it would hold true for private companies. Not sure how that escapes you...
     
  8. dairyair

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    You gave 1. ID cards that Chicago handed out.
    For all others you just said go search. Meaning, you have nothing. ID cards doesn't represent open border policy.
    You have given no open border policy by any person, state, city, church etc. However, I do know there are some politicians (1) that are talking about it.
     
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    You are aware, both parties want those illegals working in this country.
     
  10. LangleyMan

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    No, it "holds true" for states because the feds can't force states to tax and spend for enforcing federal laws. Business had no such protection under the Constitution.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Businesses have authority to enforce federal law, how don't you understand that?
     
  12. LangleyMan

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    Absolutely. Both parties.

    I want to stop illegals from working and then be as generous as possible (we can all debate that one) with illegals here now.
     
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    Businesses have chosen to hire illegals. What's your point?
     
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    That would be a good goal.
    But for 40 yrs, that hasn't been a goal. I don't think it is now. Heck, tRUMP's own companies used illegals for menial task jobs. And when caught, simple dismissed them. Perfect opportunity to set the goal and have them deported.
    And fired the criminals in his organization that hired them.
     
  15. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is for the federal government to keep illegal aliens out, barring that, it is for the federal government to find them and deport them should they be here, it is not any private businesses responsibility at all. Odd, the only people I know that support sanctuary cities are liberals, yet here you are defending them, go figure...
     
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    and they wonder why we question their Patriotism. It's surreal.
     
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    Only the fact that I provide reasoned and documented arguments, and you don't.
     
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    Right. I don't think it's a goal of either party. I'd say it p*sses me off except there's no margin is getting upset over pols selling us out. Most of 'em would push their mama down the stairs for votes.
     
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    Americans dont have to worry about immigration raids...
     
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    They know this.
    They hope the average leftist reader does not know this.
    They're usually correct.
     
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  22. LangleyMan

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    All the private business would be responsible for doing is using a smartphone to check a government database and not hire illegals. BFD. A law demanding they not hire illegals is 100% constitutional. I'm saying we should make business responsible for checking the government database.
    I don't support sanctuary cities. I explained why the Constitution stops Trump from doing anything about sanctuary cities. If you don't like the Constitution, amend it. Don't suggest someone who respects the Constitution (me!) is doing something wrong.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fascist government policy is always a BFD, its a serious infringement on freedom. Private companies do not have any Constitutional authority to enforce federal law. Are you going to deputize them or something? At the same time you would allow sanctuary cities to not check the data bases to see if they are legal or not? The more you type the more liberal you present yourself as...

    By the way the Courts just ruled in favor of Trump in limiting government funds to sanctuary cities...
     
  24. LangleyMan

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    Companies and individuals are told everyday what they must not do. In this case, they would be told they must not hire illegal aliens who don't have permission to work here. That's it.
    They just have to obey the law.
    Sorry, but states are protected by the Constitution whereas thee and me are not. Until we change the Constitution, I think we should respect it even if we don't like the result.

    Another example--every person born here is a U.S. citizen with the exception of the children of foreign diplomats. Huh? Shouldn't at least one of the parents be a citizen? I don't like the law, but the Constitution is absolutely clear. We should obey it until we change it.
    Didn't see it. If you're right, the feds can squeeze states but they can't make them spend to enforce federal law.

    Let's do what I suggested with a national ID and stop illegals from being hired, even as casual labor. That will protect employment opportunities for Americans and people we allow to work here.
     
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    By "reasonable" arguments you mean only arguments that follow your line of thinking; and by "documentation" you mean material that comes from liberal websites. I get it.
     

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