Trump's staff coordinated with the Russians during the election

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    Perhaps, the greatest accolade to the integrity, competence, and patriotic dedication of the Trump Justice Department Special Counsel is hysterical Trump toadies screaming that he should resign.

    (http://www.azcentral.com/story/opin...s-toady-little-slur-robert-mueller/834850001/)

    If that doesn't confirm progress, nothing does!

    Not all his cronies, co-conspirators and appointments merit his extracting both wee thumbs,
    but Mueller is a conspicuous exception.​
     
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    This is just a small portion of the evidence I have. Can you imagine what Mueller has. He is not talking.

    The Wikileaks campaign began in July. For four straight months, every single day, and right up to election day the voting public was bombarded by anti-Clinton disclosures, many quite damaging. Trump, himself, even encouraged the Russians. “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said during a news conference. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

    It is inconceivable that all this did not have an effect on the election.

    All this brings up some important facts. Sessions himself admitted that the only time he has met with Kislyak was during the election season, never before July. Of the 26 members of the 2016 Armed Services Committee who met with Russian envoy Kislyak in 2016, Sessions was the only one.

    Two more members of the Trump campaign’s national security officials also spoke with Kislyak in July, J.D. Gordon and Carter Page. Paul Manafort, the former Donald Trump campaign manager resigned over his lobbying work in Ukraine for the pro-Russian government. Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner met with Russia's ambassador to the U.S. in December.

    Throughout the election campaign and beyond, Trump has lavished praises on the Russian leader. "If he says great things about me, I'm going to say great things about him." "I've already said he is very much of a leader. The man has very strong control over his country."

    On the very same day that Sessions met with Kislyak in his office, Sept. 8th, Trump appeared on the Russian propaganda network, RT.

    It is true, the evidence against Trump is circumstantial. Now why is that? Well, it could be because the evidence against the Republican President has been in the hands of Republicans, a strongly loyal Jeff Sessions at the head of the DOJ, a Republican House, and a Republican Senate.

    That is very likely to change with an honest, impartial, independent special prosecutor.

    Mueller has all the same powers as a United States district attorney. This includes the ability to conduct a thorough investigation of potential crimes committed, issue subpoenas, and ultimately file charges if necessary.

    The law states that the counsel shall "exercise, within the scope of his or her jurisdiction, the full power and independent authority to exercise all investigative and prosecutorial functions of any United States attorney."


    In May, Trump fired Comey then bragged to two top Russian officials about it saying, "I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job. I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off."

    As President, Trump has yet to condemn Russia for attacking our form of government. Instead, he blames Obama. As President, in nine months he still has not taken any punitive measures against Russia for interfering in our election. As President, he has not taken any measures specifically aimed at Russia to prevent her from interfering in our 2018 and 2020 elections.

    There is still more evidence.

    Good morning

    Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.


    The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

    This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.

    What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?

    I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.

    Best

    Rob Goldstone


    Junior responded immediately,

    Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?

    Best,

    Don

    Six days later Donald Trump, Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign manager at the time, met with four Russian operatives in Trump Tower.
     
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    If true I suppose you could call it collusion

    But none of it is illegal

    If hillary is dirty trump has a right to know about it from any source available
     
  4. Sandy Shanks

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    Amazing how Trumpians seem incapable of dealing with today's reality. Led by their hero, they want to talk about an election that happened a year ago because they know Mueller is closing in and they totally ignore all the evidence against Trump and his staff. They keep saying there is no evidence, then go back to the year old election no one cares about anymore.

    It is kind of humorous in a sad way.

    More and more Trump is acting like a stand-up comic rather than a President. He can't handle the reality of the situation, either. What kind of a nut would say something like this? "People don't understand, I went to an Ivy League college. I was a nice student," Trump told reporters. "I did very well. I'm a very intelligent person." Later, pointing to his head, he added: "One of the great memories of all time."

    A comedian would.
     
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    In the face of all that is happening today, do you two have any idea how foolish you look?

    You know your hero is toast, right? It is why you want to talk about an old woman who is no longer in politics and an election that happened a year ago. :roll:
     
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    Do you not realize that scenarios, policies, even laws that was passed a year ago, effects us today. HELLO!!!
     
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    I think you are getting carried away by the constant anti trump smear in the liberal news media
     
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    No, I don't. What does this four-year old article about big government have to do with with Trump and his staff collaborating with the Russians?
     
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    Is this just speculation, too?

    Good morning

    Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.


    The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

    This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.

    What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?

    I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.

    Best

    Rob Goldstone


    Junior responded immediately,

    Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?

    Best,

    Don

    Six days later Donald Trump, Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign manager at the time, met with four Russian operatives in Trump Tower.
     
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    I know very little about Pence except he is a lapdog for Trump. I doubt he could be worse than Trump. Maybe if Trump isn't leading him around by the nose, President Pence will listen to the experts and keep his mouth shut. That alone would improve things 100%.
     
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    Pence shows all the signs of being a radical religious extremist.
     
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    The conservative The Hill newspaper reports, Trump’s approval rating is at its lowest point yet following indictments against some of his former campaign associates, according to a CNN poll released Monday.

    Thirty-six percent approve of the way Trump is handling his job, down 1 point from his previous low. Meanwhile, 58 percent disapprove of his performance.

    There is also growing concern about the ongoing investigations into Russia's election interference, the poll shows. About 64 percent of respondents say the investigation into Russian influence is a serious matter that should be fully investigated. The number who see it is as an effort to discredit Trump’s presidency is down 6 points to 32 percent.

    Which only goes to show his loyal base is staying with him. Trump could be accused of killing Mother Teresa and his base will stay with him.

    Trump's real problems and problems for Republicans in the upcoming elections are the independents. 63% of independents feel the collaboration with the Russians is a serious matter and should be investigated.

    64% of independents are concerned about the Trump organization and Russian operatives.

    61% of independents think Trump knew about the Russian contacts
     
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    Is he really that bad? Geez, he could be our President in six months or so. What has happened to the Republicans? They are even fighting among themselves. We have the Trump Republicans; then we have the real Republicans. ;)
     
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    The poll in 2013 shows why Trump won so easily in contests with the entire corrupt bipartisan political class. The numbers have nit changed.

    “Below is a list of the 10 fears for which the highest percentage of Americans reported being “Afraid,” or “Very Afraid.”

    Fear Fear Domain % Afraid or Very Afraid
    Corrupt government officials Government 60.6
    Terrorist Attack Manmade Disasters 41
    Not having enough money for the future Economic 39.9
    Terrorism Crime 38.5
    Government restrictions on firearms and ammunition Government 38.5”
    America’s Top Fears 2016, Chapman University Survey of American Fears, October 11, 2016,
    https://blogs.chapman.edu/wilkinson/2016/10/11/americas-top-fears-2016/

    The only collusion with Russia that has been exposed was The Clintons' deal with Rosatom.
     
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    I'd rather see a politically-castrated Trump serve out his squalid term.
     
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    He is a religious lunatic
     
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    The truth is the worst enemy of the left. They abhor the truth.
     
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    "Truth is Treason, in the Empire of Lies".
     
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    Do you mean the seven-year old Uranium One Trump-inspired fantasy that was dropped by the Trump election staff in 2016 because it was a dud, and has been dropped again by Trump's White House staff in 2017 because it is a dud?

    Is that the deal you are talking about? You must be watching Hannity.

    Interesting, you don't want to address the mounting evidence against Trump and his election team. You want to change the subject, instead. That says a great deal about what you think of that solid evidence. You don't want to discuss it.

    Good luck with that.
     
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    Hey, I know how it feels to be labeled a "conspiracy freak".
     
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    The Clintons' collusion with Putin, Russia, Rosatom has now been fully documented - even by the MSM. Surely you know that,

    THE NEW YORK TIMES, Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal, By JO BECKER and MIKE McINTIRE, APRIL 23, 2015. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/u...ssed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0
     
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    Is this evidence compiled from the same people that investigated Benghazi, IRS scandal, Fast and Furious, Obama's DOJ spies on AP reporters, 5 Taliban leaders Bergdahl, Extortion 17, appointment of czars without senate approval, Illegally conducting war against Libya, NSA spying on Americans, Muslim Brotherhood ties, Birth Certificate, Solyndra and the lost 535 million, Hillary Clinton emails, FBI investigation of Hillary's emails (Comey), there are more, but are they the same investigators who investigated these?

    You keep acting like I stand for Trump, I don't. I believe the entire White House needs and has needed for some time, to be swept completely clean, regardless of allies, economic, and other consequences.

    What about the Loretta Lynch meeting with Mr. Clinton on the airplane, during the investigation of his wife's emails? If the same liars (regardless of political party presidency) are to investigate now and in the future, any person of wisdom will know, we will continue to be lied to. Weather it's Trump or Hillary.

    Do you see where I stand now?
     
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    Former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser Carter Page told a number of his campaign colleagues and supervisors about his dealings with Russians, he told members of Congress last week.

    One of them was Jeff Sessions, then an Alabama senator and early Trump endorser and now the attorney general. Sessions has denied several times in Senate hearings he was aware of anyone in the campaign communicating or dealing with Russians who were interfering with the election.

    The new details come from Page's closed-door testimony last week with the House Intelligence Committee, which is investigating Russia's interference in last year's election. The panel reached an agreement with Page to release the transcript of his interview to the public, and the committee posted the transcript online late Monday.

    Page's comments provide the latest confirmed contacts between members of the Trump campaign and Russians during the presidential race. He is at least the second member of the foreign policy team contacted by Russians with offers of help or meetings.

    Papadopoulos also told his superiors on the campaign that he was being offered "dirt" on Democratic rival Hillary Clinton and "off the record" meetings with Russian leaders — which, according to court documents, he was encouraged to pursue.


    Page said that before heading to Moscow, he informed then-campaign manager Corey Lewandowski along with communications director Hope Hicks and J.D. Gordon, who was managing the candidate's national security team. Hicks is now the White House communications director.

    For months, Page has denied meeting with Russian government officials while in Moscow. But according to the transcript, he told lawmakers that he did indeed speak with members of the Russian government and state-owned businesses, including Deputy Prime Minister Arkady Dvorkovich.

    Page offered the Trump campaign a "readout" about his trip, including the discussions with Russian officials. He would send them a memo "regarding some incredible insights and outreach I've received from a few Russian legislators and senior members of the presidential administration here."

    Page sent campaign officials that quoted Page as writing "in a private conversation, Dvorkovich expressed strong support for Mr. Trump and a desire to work together toward devising better solutions in response to the vast range of current international problems."

    On June 9, 2016, Donald Trump, Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign manager at the time, met with four Russian operatives in Trump Tower. The top advisors on Trump's campaign staff were promised dirt on the Clinton campaign. Page went to Moscow in July 2016.

    NPR helped with this report. https://www.npr.org/2017/11/07/5625...ure-of-trump-aides-told-about-russia-contacts
     
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    Yup, and fully investigated, seven years ago and counting. The Trump team has dropped it because it is a dud. Do you realize your article is 2 1/2 years old?

    End of story.
     
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    You're funny. :roflol:
     

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