Tyre Nichols beating: Race Theory vs CRITICAL Race Theory

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  1. Kal'Stang

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    No one is complaining about black history being taught. No one. I know its a fun talking point for those on the left to say that but its not true. No one is objecting to slavery being taught about. No one is objecting to Jim Crow era being taught about. No one is objecting to notable black skinned people being talked about. No one is objecting to the contributions that black people have made to this country being taught about. And no one is objecting that we got it wrong in the past. If you believe this is what is being objected to, then you are not listening to what is being said. You ASSUME what is being said. At best. At worst you're purposefully trying to twist what is being said to promote an agenda.
     
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    Stormfront, last I knew, holds no power and is made up of people from across the world, and only numbering around 350k members. Part of which is made up of people trying to argue AGAINST those white supremacists.
     
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    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/08/ron-desantis-civics-initiative-slavery

    Yep! You can teach it so long as you tell them it was a free ride to a new country where they would get free board and lodgings
     
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    It was basically banned and closed down but before that happened they cloned a lot of the content onto places like 4chan
     
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    Leftist Race Baiting Media Claims Tyre Nichols Death At The Hands Of Five Black Police "Still About Racism"
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    'Van Jones leaps into a bizarre display of mental gymnastics and baseless pseudo-psychology, building a tale of black cops brainwashed into "self hatred"...'

    As the Left continues to be rejected by the Free Electorate, they resort more and more to the deliberate stoking of political violence.

    'Mobs directed by disinformation are a useful weapon for national division.' Lying Fake News media outlets are 'searching intensely for any new act of police brutality, any new mass shooting, any crime that might fit the bill for their ongoing narrative that America is a "white supremacist nation" that needs to be torn down. Unfortunately for them, the majority of these events in recent months have not involved white police officers, straight white conservative shooters, or any person the fits the woke narrative. They have been left grasping at straws.'

    'So, the spin doctors are changing strategies. If they can't find a race based killing involving a minority and white people, they will simply blame every act of violence on systemic racism anyway.'

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    'Individual responsibility no longer applies when the cops involved are not white. '

    According to these traffickers of woke nuttery, 'if the victim of police violence is a minority, it was a race based crime regardless of circumstances. If the victim is white, it is not a race based crime.'

    'The theory presented by Van Jones is insulting to minorities everywhere, because it is based on the notion that minorities cannot think for themselves and are not responsible for themselves. If five black cops can be hypnotized by white supremacy into killing other black people against their "better natures", then what possible "agency" do any black people have? The journalists at CNN and other leftist outlets paint a vision of an America in which minorities are zombies who do nothing more than the bidding of a racist phantom that controls every aspect of their behavior. All while those same journalists try to influence minorities into mob violence with false claims.'

    Nothing is more racist than that claim and agenda.
     
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    I think it's rather simple as to why this unfortunate tragedy occurred. These are bad cops. There were needed reforms, but it looks to me like these five cops didn't even care that their body cams showed them in the worst possible light. Like I said, these were bad cops.
    Where have all the good cops gone?
    They quit, they retired, they began new careers and I'll tell you one reason why. They've had enough abuse from the public.

    This leads us to a lack of cops on the force, and understaffed, overworked police departments and cops that are increasingly becoming burned out..Police officers are at a higher risk of suicide than any other profession. That's a problem because burned out cops leads to cops making stupid decisions, and not doing what they were trained to do.

    The police, in general, have been getting pounded from every which way for the last decade and mostly by the Democrats who stand to politically gain at their expense. It started under Obama, and it hasn't stopped. The publics' perception of LE, in general, is pretty dismal. Add that to hundreds of anti-police protests, all the name-calling toward cops, the politicization of the police and pleas for defunding the police and what's left? A smaller pool of good recruits.

     
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    Well, many try to point to brain size? I think. But never can offer substantiated evidence. Biased sources.
    Mostly, IMO, confirmation bias news sources is the main culprit.
    Are Neanderthal significant? Never heard of the Denisovans. Must not be taught in USA.
     
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    Systemic?
     
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    Of course it doesn't say straight out CRT. The RW made up a political football with CRT.
    I often reject abject nonsense.
     
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    OMG.
    I just showed you it's not natural. It's ingrained and made up by man to separate different humans.

    What you think personally is likely not what reality in the world. Thing redlining. Think slavery in USA.
    Neither of those are thrown into your face.
    When will you even address the issue of redlining in this country? 5X I've brought it up. You just flat out dismiss. Like it never happened.
     
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    Systemic system.
     
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    My guess, that poster is a member(former member?)
     
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    Sure
     
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    And Golem's point, is that it is not coincidental, that these officers chose a black man, on which to unleash their excessive force. This is because there is a mentality that excessive force is more tolerated, when directed against blacks. Look at the other responses, here, and you will find a host of posters saying that more force is required against black suspects, and expected of police officers, because black people are "more violent," in general or, in one mindless opinion, because blacks purposely resist arrest, looking for a payout. As long as there are those who see people with a different skin color, as intrinsically different, in any way, from everyone else, this supports institutionalized, systemic racism.
     
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    He can predict outcomes from counterfactuals? Resorting to counterfactuals is an admission that the facts do not support the desired point. If they did, he would use the facts that exist rather than a counter set of facts that do not exist.
     
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    I noticed the same they seemed unaware of the criminality of what they had just done, or, a few of them forgot to turn their cameras off after the incident.
     
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    The differences are fairly trivial, in the grand scheme of things. Sickle cell anemia, is much more rare, among whites than among blacks (an evolutionary attempt, to fight the effects of malaria). Blacks tend to have a taller and slimmer frame, in general, than those of European descent (lessening exposure to the intense sun of Africa; whereas the more stout build of Europeans, provided better insulation). These differences are becoming further muted, with a greater mixing of the races (producing bi-racial children).
     
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    That has nothing to do with my post. As far as I am aware, I used no counterfactuals.
     
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    Just checked, its not banned or closed down. Sorry to burst your (and mine) bubble. And at this time of night (5:00AM PST) still had over 700 people active. More than is active here at PF.
     
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    Did you need a shower after visiting because I did

    yeeeech! But there was some nasty nasty racist **** on there!
     
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    It was only one of many many sources all basically saying similar things

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-doubles-anti-critical-race-theory-legislation/story?id=82348795
     
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    And surprisingly common among Chinese - sickle cell is one of those mutations that gives protection against Malaria
    https://www.nature.com/scitable/top...-mechanisms-of-evolutionary-adaptation-34539/
     
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    It is natural. For HUMANS. Everything humans do can be considered "unnatural". But it actually is natural for humans. Humans name things. Humans draw distinctions. And have since the first monkey realized they could use a stick to beat another monkey that wasn't a part of its group. Like you said, its ingrained. When those names come along, when those distinctions come along is not relevant. They were going to happen no matter what because humans are humans. Prior to the America's being discovered the world was a MUCH bigger place. The moment it became smaller things started to change. Distinctions started to change. More names were added. More words were added. All to draw narrower distinctions. All to keep tribalism, a sense of special belonging, going. And its STILL happening. Hence the whole "pronoun" movement.

    Humans are not doing ANYTHING new. Just different.

    What do you expect me to say about redlining? It was bad. But its in the past. The only reason to bring it up is to make excuses or discuss history. And you're not wanting to discuss history. You're wanting to use it as an excuse. I do not blame my ancestors for my family being poor. I do not blame the people my ancestors interacted with for my family being poor. I don't even blame the people that my DAD interacted with for my family being poor. The only person responsible for my family being poor is ME. No one else. Why do you wish to blame others?
     
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    Yes, I've noticed that you reject anything that doesn't coincide with your views.
     
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