U.S. Church Membership Falls Below Majority for First Time

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  1. btthegreat

    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    I know I am supposed to shiver at the thought that my neighbors will be named Atif, Faiz, or Ghazi instead of Joseph, Mary or Simon. That's not happening.
    What do you suppose it is that is making Islam the marketplace winner of ideas in the west that Christianity, Judaism could mimic to get their pews filling, the youth more engaged etc? They must be doing something right, providing a more nurturing environment, filling a spiritual void. Maybe we have something to learn from them.
     
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    No the new religion does not give a damn about anything but harming (up to and including murder) those who disagree. Two wokesters flat out murdered people last year and the response of the woke crowd was jubilation and triumph. If I was ambitious I would look them up for you but it would be a pointless waste of time and effort on my part. I put the wokesters on the same moral level as the Nazis, Mao's cultural revolutionists and Stalin's communist revolutionists..... seeing themselves as morally pure they justified all manner of evil done against their political enemies.
     
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    It must SUCK for Evangelical Christians to have their OWN abominable IMMORAL behavior turned AGAINST them.

    :roflol:
     
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    Tell that to the 10 innocent people massacred in Boulder Colorado.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Unfortunately, there has for the last year a surge in membership of the Church of the Poisoned Mind....

    Blind faith still rules the masses.
     
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    Somebody scripted exactly what we are seeing today... Hmmmm, who would have have been?


    Section 1:
    How to create a social state – The Cloward-Piven Strategy:

    There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state.

    The first is the most important.



    1. Healthcare– Control healthcare and you control the people.
    2. Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
    3. Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
    4. Gun Control – Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state
    5. Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives. (Food, Housing, and Income)
    6. Education – Take control of what people read and listen to us“ take control of what children learn in school.
    7. Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.
    8. Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
     
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    Try to reply to my content. What is it that Islam is doing right to better compete for the hearts, the imaginations, and the spiritual lives in Western cultures. What are the weaknesses in Christianity and judaism that this faith is able exploit, to win converts in an environment where religious faith is waning? It seems this is an opportunity for Christians to reflect on what they have been consistently failing at and learn to adapt to compete.
     
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    The aren't converting anybody, they are simply moving from the Middle East to the West and setting up parallel societies and having massive numbers of children. In Great Britain they appear dislike to whites. They have had Muslim rape gangs that target white children/teens. It has been going on for decades and the number of victims runs into the tens of thousands. The woke British government has done nothing and will do nothing to stop it. This is very similar to Democrat leaders doing nothing but applaud while BLM mobs burned and looted their way through America.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring
     
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    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!

    Nothing REMOTELY similar since it was RACIST white supremacists doing all of the burning and looting.

    :roflol:
     
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    Sure it was... sure it was.... Would you like 100 more photos or 100 videos? They are out there.
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    So Christians need be birthin more babies. What can their pastors and priests say in the pulpit to get the seed flowing? Maybe they should be talking more about this verse than Leviticus or Romans.
    Genesis 22:17

    indeed I will greatly bless you, and I will greatly multiply your seed as the stars of the heavens and as the sand which is on the seashore; and your seed shall possess the gate of their enemies.

    Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Multiplying
     
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    Extremist rightwing DISINFORMATION does NOT alter factually documented REALITY.
     
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    It is my belief that to reach people (their minds, heart and soul), you need to speak to them in ways that make sense to them. And it is always best to speak to people in ways that they can relate to their own lives. The reality is that our world has changed and continues to change - therefore, messages should also change. I realize that many will disagree with this idea, as is their right. They will contend that God has not changed - His Word has not changed. But churches are responsible for delivering that Word, and if they don't find relevant ways to do that, they will lose people.
     
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    Wokesters? Really? Turn off right wing media and rejoin humanity before you end up storming a windmill on your trusty steed.
     
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    The Greed is Good Gospel promulgated by BOTH the Immoral Majority and the Q-GOP in the 1980's has had long ranging impacts on the Christian religion. Moderates have not wanted to be associated with the messaging of hate against gays and abortion and even those that remained were subjected to the loss of income that the Greed based legislation enabled by offshoring jobs that used to pay living wages and benefits.

    The church preached support for those policies while it suffered a steady loss of membership and income. That was temporarily stalled during the 1990's economic boom but the downward trend resumed in 2000 and took a major hit with the Q-GOP collapse of the economy in 2008. Instead of siding with the faithful the evangelical preachers doubled down and turned up the hatred against Obama thereby exacerbating the situation and causing more people do disassociate themselves from the church. Younger members wanted nothing whatsoever to do with it and found themselves being treated as outcasts because they refused to remain.

    So it wasn't that the churches failed to find a relevant way of delivering the message but that they adopted political messaging instead and that has become their downfall.
     
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    Undoubtedly there is a ton of church property that will be going on the market. Alot of it actually sits in residential zones because in the 1930's when municipal zoning codes were gaining ground, they were seen as entirely consistent with the residential vision, people walked to church and such communities were more homogenized by faith. But what does one do with that besides raze the building, and cut it up into small parcels for single family zoning or under special permit for a large multifamily dwelling. You could use it for special needs housing Some of it falls under institutional building coding similar to govt buildings or schools. Someone is going to make some money buying this prime property up and converting it.
     
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    I think politics is replacing religion for many in the US.
     
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    Don't see the word posted. Wouldn't matter. You knew exactly what I said, didn't you. But, you don't care about the gross immoral, unrighteous, uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts dishonoring their own bodies, vile affections, full of lust, without natural affections going on. No wonder we are losing our liberty, freedom and property. We are a nation who is endowed or given a gift by our Creator (God) with life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness (property ownership). Because the majority of our citizens are now polluted from this gift, darkness is prevailing.
     
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    No, we know any book of scripture or prophetic word is the word of God by receiving a personal testimony by the Holy Ghost. Only those who have received a testimony can tell the difference of a personal thought and truth coming from outside one's body.
     
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    You posted baseless FALSEHOODS about the Obama's which is an egregious VIOLATION of YOUR own religious dogma so you are NOT in any position to point fingers and make vapid presumptions about "owning" the "high moral ground".

    Sad!

    :roflol:
     
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    Very sad. Maybe the U.S. fighting a major global war could revive interest in church attendance.
     
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    Nothing baseless about them. You just don't want to take the effort to find out the truth. Even if I gave you a link to Obama calling his "wife" "Michael" you would not listen. You are closed minded. You would not look for the videos with it's manhood's bouncing around in it's pants. You would not look into her life and past. Nor, Barrack's past on who his father really was (Franklin Davis). I'm a voice of warning. But, like in the days of Noah, the people's pride was too great and all but a few people got to live due to their righteousness. At the last days, which are now, a small number of people will be saved from eternal damnation because of the cesspool going on today. Laugh like the wicked people before the flood. But, the truth will come out in the end. :oldman:
     
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    While religion is declining, blind following is on the rise. Politics is the new religion!
     

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