UK not banning travel from ANY country? Not even ITALY?

Sorry, are you saying that international travel wouldn't have been responsible for alot of infections?

 

no...where are you getting THAT from...??

 

You implied that a discussion about the travel situation as it was WEEKS ago was a "waste of time."

 

travel situation?? Nope...I said that I thought testing was a waste of time "WEEKS" ago (why is weeks in capitals?). We can discuss it though....I think it would have been a waste of time. There we are its discussed.

 

And they're still the lesser of two evils, but, yeah.

 

Why do you think that testing is a waste of time? The number one priority for countries at the moment is MORE testing, including UK I'm sure.

 

What is the other evil?

 

I supposes its good to know if you've had it then you don't have to be confined anymore. The scenario you proposed was that everyone arriving in the UK should have been tested...

...and as I said this proposal in my mind would have been a waste of time as what do you do with the people? Better to let them go home and isolate with the reset of the population.

 

Why would it mean that?

Let's just take people entering the UK from China back in February for example. Does banning visitors and having a procedure in place for returning citizens not seem like it would've been worthwhile to you?

There was no nation wide isolation in the early days. People were still mixing, even with social distancing in mind.

 

of course...it takes time to take in what's going on and how best to react. I assume that in the "expert" world for every Isolatist protagonist there would be a "herd immunity" protagonist if you get my drift, so you have to make judgement calls based on a balance or probability, cost/benefit and best outcome scenario. The likes of you and me sit at home wittering away on the internet without a clue what we're talking about and what it means for the closure of an entire economy but advocating actions that may or may not be of use based upon unknown expectations or outcomes. The S&P expectations for GDP are now in the toilet for many countries and GDP is what pays for our NHS...if we knacker our economy now what is the cost to it the future? Actions have consequences...

see above I guess...

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but for me...in my little world it is of little use unless you learn from it and have the ability to garner the resources and infra-structure to bring it to bear in future. So I guess in a nutshell I don't care and am not interested in what's happened; I can't be bother with the blame game.

 

So is that why there was no travel ban - herd immunity philosophy? Although, isn't the UK lock down in STARK contradiction to herd immunity?

Are you saying that there is something to learn from this?

 

I'll assume that's all rhetorical.

Of course!

 

Yes, our Yorkshire tea plantations are famous the world over.

 

Why would you assume that? If the UK is operating under the herd immunity philosophy, then I wouldn't have thought that it would be under such an insanely tight lockdown, in which the only herds would be formed in the supermarket, and even that's pretty restricted from what you say.

 

I think chris likes travel bans.
I suspect it has little to do with the actual facts and more to do with some political ideology or some desire to bash the UK.
The US imposed travel bans from China early on but doesn't appear to have done much to stop the spread of the virus there.
Shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted springs to mind.
The UK's poor showing in the Coronavirus bodycount competition has more to do with the slow realisation that herd immunity was only a theory and that flattening the curve was a better one. Boris very nearly paid for that error with his life.

 

...'ee by eck....

 

Our tea plantations in Tetley are also world-renowned.
In the interest of fairness, I have to say that other teas are available.
Twinnings are the best though.

 

....Sainsbury's Red label for me...

 

In truth, I'm a bit of an old hippy who only really drinks peppermint tea.

 

It's all about the matcha tea you whisk for me.

 

Tea took England into the industrial revolution half a century before countries like France and Italy and Germany because we stole tea from China. We mixed milk and sugar with it and thus gave our people the calories needed without getting them drunk; other European countries still had to drink beer or wine; thus tea gave us the leg up leaving Europe behind in the dust.
It was quite the act of espionage and corporate theft so the next time anybody knocks England as a bunch of tea drinkers; It gave us the industrial revolution 50 years before anyone else. Water wasn't clean or reliable back then so if it wasn't for the tea we stole from China and planted in Ceylon, we'd be no better than the drunken French or Germans toiling in some field somewhere, those poor backwards drunken Bastards.

- We'd steal it again if we had to. No apologies. That's what makes Britain so great.

 

More tea would probably be a good idea for the UK.

British people have the more prolific boozing habits than any other nationality, a major global study has found, with many people getting drunk once a week.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...k-often-anyone-else-world-major-global-study/

 

A trailer to the story of Robert Fortune.
The man who went into China and got us tea.

 

Yeah, none of that matters now (it's 2020), we have water coolers full of clean water if you don't like the plumbed in stuff. People only get drunk now out of choice.
'couple hundred years ago though, that just wasn't the case. Tea gave us the industrial revolution half a century before anyone else because all the rest of Europe could do was drink beer or wine and get drunk and do what backwards Europeans do best, which is to sit around being backwards all day doing nothing, probably because all they had to drink was either beer or wine making them too drunk to really achieve anything. We switched tea with milk and sugar and the rest is history beating countries in Europe to the industrialised age by half a century.
It's 2020 though, in our modern times, why can't we have a booze culture?

 

Basically. @Blücher

We have English Tea, what do you guys have, Oktoberfest. It's probably fun a Hell but you guys don't have tea in your history, just beer.

Gave us the industrial revolution it did which left countries in Europe behind in the dust as they toiled too inebriated to do anything; True story.

English Tea

Don't knock it.