US and Australia history not so different

Discussion in 'History & Past Politicians' started by jmblt2000, Feb 7, 2016.

  1. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    You've been to Africa, I lived in Africa and spent most of my life there. What do you need references for exactly? Thanks
     
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    Never have guessed that by the animals behind you, mule deer, coyote, raccoon...I never knew those animals were in Africa...Of course I hunt for food...In fact me and a couple of buddies went on a night time hog hunt, delivered 9 hogs to our butcher. He's a local that also works with hunters for the hungry. One of the best charities in this country.
     
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    I go on hunting trips to America.
     
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    Well please come to Texas and have fun shooting some of the estimated 13 million feral hogs.
     
  5. dixon76710

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    Actually, most Israelis are descended from Jews from Arab nations or Israel itself. AND most of those Jews from Arab nations are in fact descended from Israelites. And even German and Russian Jews are to a lesser extent descended from Israelites. The fact that some were instead, later converts, doesn't change that fact.
     
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    Except for the south west tip of Israel, Arabs were virtually nonexistent before the Islamic invasions of the 7th century and later, if we define Arabs as those who speak Arabic. If we instead define Arabs to include people from the Arabah region of Israel, even though they spoke no Arabic, then arabs have always been there.
     
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    I used to live in Houston Texas , got friends there . You know south park?
     
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    Yes, if by "partially" you mean a portion of the Jewish population. And many Khazars converted, only because so many Israelites and their descendants settled in the area. Jews who have immigrated to Israel from Arab nations in the mid east aren't descended from Khazars even partially.
     
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    Well, you don't sound very informed or articulate at all. You don't just state that x is descended from y without proof. I can state that Jewish ppl are not descended from Israelites and I can state that with no need of proof (even though I have plenty of it) but the fact remains, or the burden remains on you, innit. I know you are gonna back up cuz they always do, I been making these white nationalist look fool's for over a decade now and it ain't gonna change, it only getting worse for white nationalists
     
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    It was actually the British army and free settlers who were doing all the ethnic cleansing. By the way,, by about the 1830s deportation to Australia had slowed to a trickle.
     
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    In the 18th and 19th centuries there was quite a bit of hustle and bustle over territory with the Spanish, Mexicans, the British, the French, native Americans and others. You have also forgotten the big one, the American Civil War. Australia never saw anything like America's violent history.
     
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    when I poke around the internet I find contradicting genetic information and opinions on said DNA work. Maybe the jews intermarried many times over 2,000 years? Maybe the DNA work just needs a bigger data base?
     
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    There are still a dozen or so bridges around here with these signs set in the stonework!

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    I have no problem hating Muslims. My image of them is suicide bombers blowing up cafe's. Women subjugated in burkas. 9/11. Beheading journalists and making video for all to see. Is my image completely off base?
    I don't watch much on tv other than Netflix and Hulu.
    May I ask if you're in England? If so, could you describe the public attitude regarding Muslims? What is the Muslim population like in your neck of the woods?
     
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    It's very true and seldom realized because we are emotionally attached to our beliefs. It's human. Republicans see Obama as the devil and Democrats blame Bush for everything. Neither asks why for 16 years and power shifts we have remained in the middle east, illegal immigration hasn't been touch, no tax reform. Both parties want the exact same thing. Their talking points are just different. Voters aren't calling for term limits when career politicians bought and paid for sre ruining DC. No one is calling for more state and less federal government...
     
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    Forget the Civil War?? Haha. You may not be aware of exactly where I am or southern heritage and such. We have many CW reenactments, a year of Georgia history. The southeast probably knows more about the Civil War than any region. Margaret Mitchell was from Atlanta. Gone With The Wind.
    My point was really that we have NO idea what war is like unless we are soldiers who have been sent off to one. We are pretty sheltered in that regard.
    I think it's cute that you try to shame me for being American. Our hemisphere has had peace for a long time and Canada and Mexico are happy neighbors. I am extraordinarily thankful to have been born here. I love that we don't care what the East thinks. I love Israel for their balls, too. I love that Truman dropped the bomb. I love our technology and how much everyone else needs it.
     
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    I know of the area. I'm in the Austin area, but have hunting property in the Lampasas area, as well as AZ and AK. In fact I got an Elk tag for AZ finally and plan to try my new Quackenbush air rifle. Means I got to get within 25 - 30 yards, should make it a bit more challenging.
     
  19. Esau

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    Or maybe DNA will never provide an answer since no bodies as we do kemet
     
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    Yes, the problem is the images and news you're being fed. If all one ever sees and is told is that Muslims are evil and hell-bent on taking over the world it's difficult to understand that what you are seeing is a miniscule number of lunatics who have usurped Islam for their own murderous ends. If all we in England ever saw of the Irish during The Troubles was images of bombed towns and all we ever heard were stories of assassinations and kneecapping by the IRA I suspect that we too might take a negative view of the entirety of Irish Catholics.
    It doesn't take much effort to figure out that all 1.7 billion Muslims are not out to take over the world in the same way that the IRA were not representative of the vast majority of Irish Catholics.
    Attitudes to Muslims here vary; there is a strong undercurrent of Islamophobia mostly evident among the less well-educated far-right types. A few years ago the target of their irrational hate would have been blacks-and further back, Jews. Among the middle classes we generally get on together just fine. I live in a small city (100,000 pop.) in the South West of England and the number of Muslims is small.
    Muslims in general, like everyone else, just want to get on with their lives unmolested.
     
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    The thing is though, that just because the majority is nice, doesn't mean the minority isn't still a problem. The irish, as a people, had a problem with irish terrorism. You didn't find that problem with scots, with frenchmen, with dutch. You only found it with irishmen. Similarily, muslims as a people have a problem with islamic terrorism. As a community, they have a problem with extremism, with a lack of clear moral authority that shuns such extremism. They have a battle over the soul of islam, as the king of jordan so wisely put it. I know individualism is the stuff these days, but I believe goups do have a responsibility, and thinking in terms of groups is necessary to some extent. Muslims themselves are responsible for the image of their group. They need to get their (*)(*)(*)(*) together and fix the problems they have. Other people have all right to be wary of muslims right now, because there are some very serious problems with the muslim community right now.
     
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    Islamic radicals and para-military Irish Republicans share similarities in that they are both reactions to historical Western imperialist aggression.
     
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    An explaination is not an excuse. They may indeed be a reaction to western screw-ups in the past, but that doesn't mean we should tolerate them or that what they are doing is right or acceptable. You could say the same of nazism, but it doesn't mean nazism was acceptable.
     
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    LOLOLOL!! So full of yourself that you think when you do the same thing, its enlightened proclamations. AND YOU are the only one making absurd claims about all Jews. And while my statements are accurate, yours are a bunch of nonsense. HALF of the Israeli population of Jews are from or descended from immigrants from ARAB nations with no relation, whatsoever to Germans or Russians. I know a family of Yemeni Jews who can trace their family history back to the 10th century in Yemen. Jews were in Yemen before the concept of a german or Russian even existed. Some put it as far back as 1400 BC. And you can sit their with a straight face and claim they are descendants of Germans and Russians. What nonsense. No wonder your views are so (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up. They are based upon complete ignorance of the subject matter..... or no doubt some kind of rabid hatred of jews.
     
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    Soooooo a Muslim living in the UK experiences Western imperialist aggression??? I don't believe it. Muslims don't need to experience Western imperialist aggression to become terrorists. They have the Koran to instruct them on the need to "fight", "kill" "slay" and "smite the necks" of the unbelievers
     

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