US Supreme Court rules inmate has 'no right to painless death'

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    Gas is the slowest way and the most dangerous and expensive way to execute someone. The fastest and most painless are the guillotine and hanging.
     
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    By acknowledging that perfection is impossible, no matter how much effort is investing into attempting to achieve such.

    As opposed to what, precisely? Someone who did not commit a crime but is held for more than four decades, watching as their prime years are wasting away in confinement, only to be released into a society that is exceedingly different from what they are familiar with and may not be able to cope and adjust to?
     
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    I wonder what Jesus would think of governments painfully executing people. I bet he would approve!
     
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    Corpses can't be released if exculpatory evidence is eventually discovered. People serving life sentences can. It's a legitimate concern anytime someone is put to death.
     
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    When the Constitution was ratified, the death penalty was far more common.
     
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    God did wipe out the entire population of the planet, save for Noah, his family, and an ark full of animals. God also killed every firstborn child in the nation of Egypt to motivate the ruling pharaoh to release the jewish slaves that were being held. And a great deal of smiting and ruin was promised upon those that did not heed the word of God.

    Do not bring matters of religion in to this matter. It is ultimately a losing endeavor.
     
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    Well ***** CA Governor cured that problem. He suspended all executions. Till he gets damned good and ready.
    California governor to freeze death penalty, says it's 'fundamentally immoral' and biased
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...eezes-death-penalty-calls-immoral/3146062002/

     
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    “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven."
     
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    As a high school teen, the San Quentin Asst. Warden took we members of the school chess team to see the CA gas chamber from the visitors side. His claim was the gas knocked them out on the first breath.
     
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    US Supreme Court rules inmate has 'no right to painless death'

    Why then can't we utilize a fuller spate of 'enhanced interrogation' techniques to extract vital & time sensitive information from terrorists...?

    (imho. quickest dispatching of death w/o pain though - slippery slope Not to...)

    (capital punishment should be public - as it has always been since time immemorial, for a variety of reasons)
     
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    No he didn't.
     
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    WHAT????????????????????? I have been inside of San Quentin prison one time and I assure the forum the Asst. Warden took we on the chess on the tour and we were taken into the visitors section in the Gas Chamber around 1955.
     
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    You attacked me again. 20 members of our chess team went to San Quentin Prison to play chess with the inmates. Each of us played 3 games. I won 1 and lost 2. The entire team won but 8 games. I never forgot that field trip. And the Warden was not who took us, it was his assistant. And we asked questions due to seeing the visitors section of the gas chamber. And he said the inmates were knocked out the moment of their first breath.

    What the hell makes you speak of growing up in America. I was born in Tulare, CA in 1938 and have spent most of my life in this state. What kind of nut case are you?
     
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    The body is alive for quite a few minutes using gas but it has always worked. As to expense, the Assist Warden informed us it was low cost.
     
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    As far as I'm concerned there is no subatantial ethical difference between a death sentence and life in prison, other than degree.

    If you are found not guilty 50 years into a life sentence there is no way to get that time back.

    The problem is the current implementation, which is cruel and expensive. Single 00 Buckshot shell to the temple. Problem solved.
     
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    So were slavery, lynching and witch trials. Try migrating into the 21st century with the rest of the civilized world.
     
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    Such pertained to undue persecution due to religious beliefs. It had nothing to do with prosecutions and punishments for crimes such as murder. Nor was it a condemnation of the death penalty.
     
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    First, because torture does not work.

    Second, those that would be subjected to such have not been provided due process nor convicted of any actual crime.

    Third, such individuals have not been sentenced to death in a court of law.
     
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    Each gasket for the door cost $30k and they have to replace them regulary. Gas is the most expensive way to execute someone.
     
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    Im simply saying, that with the knowledge the innocent people get put to death, that death should be as painless as possible.
     
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    Clearly you didn't understand what I said.

    If the death penalty was a common method of punishment when the Constitution was written, then the death penalty was not considered "cruel and unusual punishment" by the people who wrote the founding documents.

    Lynching is the death penalty, by the way.

    Salem Witch trials happened over 75 years before the Constitution was written. The last witch trial happened at least 50 years before it was written. Learn history.
     
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    Agreed, too much time and bytes are wasted worrying about how a heartless criminal shall be killed.

    Just do it and get it over with, or better yet turn it into a for profit entertainment event.
     
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    That would be ok if the person was not executed by lethal injection and pass's a full health screening.

    The process could simply begin as hooking up a couple IV's and turn the criminal into a blood donor, that would be not too painful and would achieve the desired result.
     
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    It’s good to be humane and compassionate, within reason, and with great respect for suffering and pain of the criminals’ victims. But I'm not losing any sleep over a few painful moments during a murderer’s execution.
     
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    Everyone processes pain differently. What may be painless to one individual may not be painless to another. How does one know for certain?
     

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