US Supreme Court rules inmate has 'no right to painless death'

We can be pretty medically sure about this stuff in this day and age.

Hell, just put someone under general anesthesia, let them go to sleep, and you can kill them however you want pain free.

And in the rare occasion where that cannot be done, we should focus on the least painful method.

We have a right to punishment, but to do it with cruel intention makes you no better than the person you are punishing.

 

No one is making the claim of being "better" than the person that is being punished. One is simply abiding by the established law while the other did not.

 

Actually we can't.
Even under full anesthesia, some people are aware and feel the pain of a chirurgical procedure being performed on them. They're just unable to communicate it.
I advocate for the fasted methods which are the guillotine or hanging, with cervical spine separation. The firing squad isn't necessaraly an instant death and the electric chair and gas chamber takes too long.

 

The door I saw resembles doors inside ships. Fighting in court is the most expensive part.

 

This is a problem that is difficult to solve.
1. Democrats were once all for the death penalty.
2. Courts started taking the killers side vs the victims side.
3. Arguments over method of death are absurd.
4. China does it with one bullet. We know how to do it.

 

And on the inside edge there's a gasket. That gasket as to be pristine as to not let the highly poisonous, and quite lethal even at low dose, to come out. Each gasket are quite expensive and they have to replace them regulary. Also, you have to add the clean up cost as both the chamber and the cadaver have to be neutralized before being handled.

 

Personally I am for a slow painfull death, depending on the crime.

guillotine is the best, for a quick kill,

 

I agree.

 

My point is there are gaskets on the ships interior doors as well. I have not questioned your high number as of yet but believe it to be excessively high. Definitely the gas is lethal. The chamber is cleared of gas by pumping it out. The safety of those removing the body is paramount so the chamber is cleared completely.

The assistant warden did not discuss costs with us. I have no figures of any sort.

If you think I prefer gas, do not keep thinking that.

 

That's what lethal injection is

There is no occasion where that can't be done

 

Large caliber bullet between the eyes is pretty quick and painless.

 

A cheap and absolutely painless method is to introduce a pure nitrogen atmosphere in a gas chamber. The subject does not feel suffocated because the feeling of suffocation is caused by a build up of CO2 in the blood, not the absence of O2.

 

There is no awareness under full anesthesia.
Those cases involve running out of anesthetic agents in the middle of a case, while the patient is paralyzed.

This will have zero chance of occurring with lethal injection. The individual will be long dead before the massive doses of injected medications wear off

 

Let wild pigs eat them, starting down at the feet and up their legs.


This is also excellent for muslim terrorists.

 

I don't disagree.
But these inmates are rendered completely unconscious and don't experience anything

 

Kill them the same way they killed their victims.

 

This documentary goes through all forms of execution presently used. Gas is the most expensive, and the slowest to kill. You're progressively drowning in your own accumulated fluid in the lungs.

 

If you think I prefer gas, do not keep thinking that. (twice stated by me)

 

I know that in 2011 my heart surgeon opened up my chest to reroute an artery. Had they executed me, there is no way I would have been aware of it.

 

I didn't say you did. I'm argumenting that it's the least effective and most costly option out there.
If I had to personally chose, I'd take hanging in first place and electrocution second. Both kill off the central nervous system instantly.

 

But there are documented case of people actually feeling the cuts and procedure under total anesthesia
https://www.asahq.org/whensecondscount/preparing-for-surgery/risks/waking-up-during-surgery/

 

Experiences[edit]
The most traumatic case of anesthesia awareness is full consciousness during surgery with pain and explicit recall of intraoperative events.[citation needed] In less severe cases, patients may have only poor recollection of conversations, events, pain, pressure, or difficulty in breathing.[citation needed] Some cases of difficulty in breathing are caused by intubation errors and/or problems with the ventilator and a patient might be suffocating.[citation needed]

The experiences of patients who have experienced anesthesia awareness vary widely depending on why they became aware, whether they were paralyzed and patient responses and sequelae vary widely as well. It is unusual for someone having experienced awareness without pain or suffocation to suffer bad sequelae. The experience may be extremely traumatic for the patient or not at all depending on whether they could breathe and what errors were made.[citation needed]

Because the medical staff may not know if a person is unconscious or not, it has been suggested that the staff maintain the professional conduct that would be appropriate for a conscious patient.[14]

 

That is rather amazing to hear of. My anesthesiologist must have been a special guy.

 

Nah, it's uncommon but still, there's a chance someone may feel something when under anasthesia.

Another fast acting method, was the one used by spain, which is garotting. There's a stud that press against the cervical spine and a metal band that goes around the throat. The "screw" is made in such a way that a single rotation of the wheel is enough to both crush the cervical spine and cut the airflow and blood circulation in front.

 

If thats the case, then I support it.