VIDEO SHOWS POLICE OFFICER PUNCHING WOMAN IN HEAD ON NEW JERSEY BEACH

Yeah, sure, and I could have used a shotgun on her for my part, but neither you and I are trained or paid to be law enforcement officers.

 

It's profitable to label peeps low-life criminals so they can be incarcerated and since that business model is based upon continual growth you might be next. There isn't a day goes by without all of us breaking some law or other, there are that many that's it's impossible not to, and guess whose job it isn't to decide which laws are going to be applied and which not.

 

I know that its a situationally dependent task.

And what sort of comment is that anyways?

Its like me saying "you have no idea how to form a hamburger patty" and then we engage in a back in fort about the particulars.

What type of meat did you use? What fat content? How many grams is your patty? How many newtons of force did you use to form it? Did you wear gloves? Were they latex?

 

You just have no idea how law enforcement is done when it comes to restraining someone, and yet there you are making judgements. I do know - I used to work in security, and I might add we wouldn't have accepted such a sloppy job in our outfit, because if we did then we would have been sued our asses off without the establishment or the far right protecting us like they do for these guys. We also had half the pay and none of the benefit package. Call it envy if you want - at the time, you'd be perfectly right.

But of course we were a private service so unlike these guys we actually had to deliver and perform everyday to keep our contracts. If these guys were mall cops they would have been fired and you would never had heard of it in the first place.

 

Like I said I know that its a situationally dependent task.

There is no 500,000 page training manual detailing every procedure for every possible encounter - there are basic techniques and there is the goal which is to restrain as quickly and safely as possible.

I don't care to nitpick what could have happened there because its inconsequential.

All that matters is what happened and the question of if it was justifiable or not.

Is there a law on the books in Jersey that says a police officer cant "punch" somebody?

I doubt it because its more legally fluid to question whether any force is justifiable and to do so on a case by case basis, and I think that's what will happen here.

That officer may be suspended or terminated, and that unruly girl may get a payday, but I seriously doubt any criminal charges will be filed against the office.

Our culture has transitioned from one that values law enforcement to one that views them as any enemy every time they have to deal with the feral savagery.

In my opinion, a simple stunning strike with the softest part of the fist that resulted in no damage is a justifiably tactic to deal with somebody kicking screaming throwing elbows and resisting arrest.

 

It's generally called an assault (I am unfamiliar with the more fancy legal terms in english). Like with a citizen, such an assault can be tolerated in self-defense. There are no exception for police, unless the situation warrants it. A cop can't go John Wick on you even if you offended him somehow.

Here, the cops were already at least two on the 100-lbs woman, and the hand one of them used to hit (ackwardly, I might add) on the girl would have been better used to get a better grip on her.

Such a mistake is to be expected from civilians and amateurs, I guess, or from people with mental troubles or known to easily panic and lose self-control in times of crisis. The bad news is, people afflicted with any of these traits have no place in the force.

How come they failed so much? What are they taught in police academies? Paperwork? Paying union dues? Giving tickets to ordinary joes that struggle to get to work every morning? Were they trained at all?

There are about a thousand techniques to restrain someone and prevent them from hurting themselves or others. If one doesn't learn them at the academy, there's got to be a few bouncers that ought to know some of them before their knowledge is completely lost.

Police inaptitude is one of the most visibles stigmatas of big government and yet right-wingers here defend them, right wingers who demand the right to defend themselves. Crazy world.

 

Law enforcement officers are trained in pain compliance techniques and paid to use them when necessary.

 

Such poor judgement would have made these cops unfit for mall security service. Perchance they're a governmental service as and such they should get away with mediocrity.

 

The overly lubricated lass was charged with multiple counts of aggravated assault on a police officer. I'm presuming Officer MVictorP would stiffen the old upper lip and accept his role as a punching bag.

 

It was the lass' job to get lubricated on the beach by a nice day.

If I am being paid for getting a few kicks, spits and insults, then you would presume right. And as a result I'd still work in the force and have the respect, not the fear, of the citizens I would be supposed to serve and protect. Not sure these overpaid punks ever will have either again.

 

Nonsense. It's because we have excessive laws. We have a lot of criminals because legislation creates criminals where there were none.

Marijuana prohibition, ridiculously arbitrary drinking age laws, etc.

it's all creating criminals to tax the populace.

 

So are those who endorse excessive use of force for no reason.

 

at the end of the day, the usual suspects have been instructed to parrot anti-cop doctrine...to always err on the side of the violent resister...the cop assaulter...the cop killer...

most especially if they're of a black or brown persuasion.

it's a relic from the 60s, where such was seen...revered... as act of defiance against 'The Man', as an act of revolution against a system that could send men to fight and die in a war..... against a socioeconomic ideology that they rather agree with.

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now that they're all grown up and have become 'The Man', I'm just wondering who they're going to send after us when we run afoul of their myriad diktats....

 

I'm embarrassed for these two cops. TWO male cops couldn't subdue a drunk woman without one having to resort to punching her? These two are clearly in the wrong profession.

 

Apparently she kicked one of them in the crotch and then ran off only to be caught where she continued to kick and throw elbows as she was taken to the ground, that's when the video kicks in.

Technique, weight difference, I just don't see these as mattering.

All that matters is the question: Was the punch an appropriate measure of force for the situation.

I say it was, you say it wasn't, others have their opinion, but its up to the law to decide.

Lots of reasons.

Such as departments that have fast-tracked cadets to active durty and rookies to higher position in order to meet ethnic and religious quotas imposed by "do-gooder" politicians who know nothing of police work.

Budget cuts are, of course, always a factor.

The demand to quickly put more officers on the streets because our country is becoming more and more violent.

Or the fact that its hard to find people who are willing to do a job where they're likely to be killed at any moment and when they have to defend themselves they risk being unjustly prosecuted by some race pandering leftist DA while dealing with death threats from mobs of bigoted leftists and walking around a leftist city where people spit in their food and ban them from entering their stores?

And yea we right-wingers demand people be able to defend themselves and that includes the police.

We're going to side with cops over criminals even when it means picking the lesser of two wrongs.

 

I am calling you out webrockk.

Over-lubricated is a lie because she would have been charged with public drunkenness. It was also reported she passed a breathalyzer test immediately before the conflict.

 

Fair enough.

 

The anti second amendment people are the ones that create this disrespect to citizens.. if we all had a gun we would be respected a lot more. So look in the mirror

 

I haven't seen the Rev Al or some of the other usual suspects the normally come out for other examples of police brutality... seems like... crickets....

 

I don't dislike guns nor self-defense concepts, and I use both. I avoid the police except in insurance cases that requires one of their papers.

 

We do have too many laws. No doubt.

I'd love to see Rand Paul go through our legal codes and have the power to toss out any laws that are unreasonable.

 

You think a women cant be a force to be reckoned with


Try stealing this ones purse big boy

Women can be just as deadly as a man if they have applied themselves, for starters they have the element of SURPISE, when they launch your nuts in to your lungs LOLOL

 

Spitting was all they needed..

 

Something else may happen and the officers could be needed elsewhere. So they should be quick, tough, effective, and not waste time taking a resistor into custody.

In this particular case the officers should have used more force so as not to waste time.

 

Do you mean like the 8+ police who turned up to the parking violation incident that got a black man tased and arrested?