Voter ID

You're talking about a tiny and particular demographic (a rare one, in my world), and deadbeat adults. I'm not talking about such types.

The world is very big, and most of it is not like America. It pays to remember this, sometimes. Especially if you want to do the best by your kids. PLENTY of people and cultures do it better than your own kind. Take the best from each, don't just assume you have to do it the same way your 'village' does it.

 

You seem to be responding to an argument no one is making.

You don't have to live in that world to see the stats.

 

• Voter ID laws make voter fraud harder to pull off.
• Democrats love voter fraud since they're the ones doing it.
• Therefor, democrats hate voter ID laws.

Pretty simple, I'd say.

 

Every instance has a source document you can click on...

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=2216

 

I posted numerous evidence to counter. Most of what you posted never became an actual illegal vote

 

You posted one link to the Brennan Justice Center of NYU which by the way is a staunch opponent of the voter ID laws...The link I posted was just page one of 3 pages that every post had a source link which varied from conservative to liberal newspapers as well as DOJ links...I know you didn't go through any of them so you cannot say that these did not involve convictions.

 

My link contained numerous links within them. I guess you didn't read them. LOL

 

Voter fraud is nearly nonexistent. Voter ID laws are ONLY being pushed to prevent voters...LEGAL voters...who Republicans would prefer not be allowed to vote...from voting

 

Actually I did take the time to read some of them, you will notice that my post was 30 minutes after yours, while yours was one minute after mine...Nice try!!!

 

And yet you said I only posted one link? LOL

 

And this has what to do with the state governments selecting specific forms of government issued ID to prevent voter impersonation at the polls?

The voter ID laws don't affect non-citizens that are prohibited from registering to vote.

Voter ID laws only affect US citizens that are prohibited from voting if they don't have the proper ID and attempt to vote at the polls.

 

Perhaps you should have read the post I was responding to.

 

Photo IDs are required to do a number of things. Why it shouldn't be required to cast a ballot is simply unsupportable.

These arguments have already been addressed. Thank you for the excellent link.

Again, photo IDs are required to do a number of things. Why it shouldn't be required to cast a ballot is simply unsupportable.

 

your post is a great justification for gun control

 

By your writing you don't act very mature. That is why I called you son. The Internet inspires people to act irresponsibly. The fact is most people over 21 and living with their parents are NOT pursuing any further education.

 

Two answers:

1) Two wrongs don't make a right

2) Just because some people have the power to require photo ID does not mean they have the constitutional authority to do so.

WE all have a duty and an obligation to refuse to comply with unconstitutional laws... so I guess that position IS supportable after all.

 

Liba t ards? That's all you got to try and sell an unconstitutional proposition? Think again, sir. It was the conservative position until after 9 /11 to oppose all this National ID hooey.

Everyone from the Conservative Union to the John Birch Society down to Ron Paul himself used to be firmly against these nutty proposals to trash the Fourth Amendment and implement Hitler's tattoo idea on steroids. Unlike you and the Clintons I can tell you I was against it then; I'm against National ID now.

 

Did you know that, early in American history, only land owners were allowed the privilege of voting? Today you can live off welfare, not own a damn thing and get to vote to take money out of the people's treasury. Do you know why?

 

National ID? You mean like a chip? A state DL or a state ID card is all that is necessary. This isn't rocket science, it's common sense. God forbid we require more identification to buy a bottle of booze than we do exercising our right to elect our governance.

 

It's common sense if you enjoy tyranny and oppression. NO THANKS.

 

The next time I go to cash a check, I'll scream YOU TYRANT HITLER at the teller at the top of my lungs.

 

You make baseless arguments. You and I both know you're addicted to a debit card and haven't pulled your ID out for a check because you haven't seen one in five years.

 

So I'll scream at the ATM, you fascist pig!!! The nerve of you wanting my PIN!

 

Are you being silly for a reason? When you deal with private entities and they issue you documents whereby you access your account, that is between you and them. There is absolutely NO REASON your ATM card should be connected to your ID.

Since you obviously are not READING, but trying to get a rise out of people, I guess you will have to be the one to be schooled.

BEFORE National ID, everything worked better and your Rights (especially Fourth Amendment Rights were much more secure.) Today, everybody wants your "Social" - a clear reference to your Socialist Surveillance Number... ooops.. "Social Security Number." THAT is your de facto National ID Number. When the people begged for E-Verify, it relied on your National ID Card, which in turn relies on the SSN. As a side note, THAT was the way the right helped to prop up the unconstitutional income tax and perpetuate the 16th Amendment (an illegally ratified Amendment that is a plank out of the Communist Manifesto.)

Back to National ID.

Today, all someone has to do is ask for your "social" - it can be anyone from the grocer to the receptionist in your doctor's office and from a utility company to car salesmen. Once equipped with that, they can destroy any Right to Privacy that existed AND that includes stealing your identity. Everything about you does not need to reside in one piece of ID.

Your medical and dental records should not share the same ID number with your criminal records and income tax records. For ALL these reasons you are for National ID, I am against it. Private entities could and should use their own ID format for internal purposes. They should not be allowed to "require" your SSN. Nobody should be able to get that much information about another person without a warrant.

People armed with information they cannot process can (and do) deny to their fellow Americans jobs, housing, credit, and educational opportunities over things that are connected to your SSN which they have NO LEGITIMATE REASON TO ACCESS. Right to Privacy... Fourth Amendment... Easily stolen ID. I'm not for it and you cannot present a case that justifies trying to force people to play a game to appease you.

 

So just to be clear, the Constitution is fine if you want to require a photo ID in the following situations:

1. Alcohol
2. Cigarettes
3. Opening a bank account
4. Apply for food stamps
5. Apply for welfare
6. Apply for Medicaid/Social Security
7. Apply for unemployment or a job
8. Rent/buy a house, apply for a mortgage
9. Drive/buy/rent a car
10. Get on an airplane
11. Get married
12. Purchase a gun
13. Adopt a pet
14. Rent a hotel room
15. Apply for a hunting license
16. Apply for a fishing license
17. Buy a cell phone
18. Visit a casino
19. Pick up a prescription
20. Hold a rally or protest
21. Blood donations
22. Buy an "M" rated video game
23. Purchase nail polish at CVS
24. Purchase certain cold medicines
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However, if you wish to require a photo ID in order for someone to cast a ballot, that is clearly unconstitutional, and as a result any such rule must be ignored.

Did I get that correct? (I won't even reply to such lunacy, I just wanted to make sure I understood what your position is...).