Jaywalking, that's hilarious, I've seen people cross busy highways on foot and cops drive right by them. We actually prosecute criminals in this country, and just so you know, about 15 to 20% of our federal prison population is foreign Nationals. You might want to check your own country's facts...while less gun crimes there might be, all other violent crime has risen steadily since 1997.
Those that do are thicker than my kitchen worktop. The Royals cost less than a president and the income to the UK due to the Royals is 3 to 4 times the cost. America is better off dumping the president, scraping the White House, get a Royal family and Prime Minister. Logic has said that for decades.
Is there a difference? The US prosecutes all felonies and deports others. Scotland has been named the most crime ridden area in the EU, that's why when you look up UK crime stats, it usually only shows England and Wales, and conveniently doesn't show Scotland and N. Ireland. I've seen several posts that state if you remove the 5 most dangerous cities in the US, the crime stats go way down and are better than most EU countries.Many scoff at this, but this is what the UK does. BTW, those 5 cities are democratically controlled cities with strict gun laws.
I've read more than a few studies, remove blacks and Hispanics out of the equation in America, there would be less crime in America than in Europe. No studies just crunching the numbers, remove liberals from running cities in America, low crime rates.
As with the UK, if we could eliminate a third of our population from the crime statistics...The US would look a lot better statistically.
Look at the prison populations, The conviction rates, Unless you honestly believe White Criminals get a pass when committing crimes and Judges only send Black People to jail.
I am pro gun, and anti wall. Heres why (on the wal): no physical barrier will ever be cost effective. A wall that will actually keep determined people out will be more expensive than any negative social effects they cause by getting in. To be clear, I do support controlling our borders. A country without a border is like a body without skin. But a well supported border patrol and more effective illegal immigration laws is cheaper and more effective than any wall will ever be. I should also clarify that we need immigrants. A healthy economy (such as we're once again becoming) needs workers. Legal immigration needs to be streamlined badly. Now, Im curious- whats your reasoning that being pro-gun and pro-wall are contradictory?
Yeah except that's not true. The 30 foot high prototypes for the entire length costs a third of what we spend on illegals every year. We could build 3 of them per year for what it costs us now from not having a wall.
I must be really special able to do things that most can't. I support guns using my arms and hands and can brace a wall using timbers.
Agreed on all points. Why don't we try the cheaper measures first then, if necessary, build a wall? I don't get the rush to build the world's largest white elephant in defiance of General Patton's wise words: “Fixed fortifications are monuments to man’s stupidity. If mountain ranges and oceans can be overcome, anything made by man can be overcome.”
The problem with that statement is that the costs of the illegals have been inflated to justify the costs of building the wall. Do you have a link to those costs? Will they show "benefits" illegals obtain for "free"? If so, why not just stop them from obtaining those benefits? Wouldn't that be cheaper? Again, go after those who emply, harbor, entice or otherwise support illegals coming to or living in the USA. Much easier to arrest one hotel manager or construction foreman than 12-24 employees. No jobs + no benefits = illegals self-deporting....or never coming here in the first place.
There is one major difference in the North of Ireland, in those communities comprised by people identifying themselves as Irish have very little violent crime using firearms between residents of similar ethnic identity; it’s not tolerated.
Much of the cost is from illegals having children in the US and costs of crime. Right now they're busy trying to give illegal aliens full medicare benefits. The wall isn't just there to stop the ones who want welfare babies and to work at 7-11. Heroin rings don't come here to get welfare or a job. https://www.fairus.org/sites/default/files/2017-09/Fiscal-Burden-of-Illegal-Immigration-2017.pdf
Even during "the Troubles"? Seems they were whacking each other pretty good in those days. So much so that the British Army had to come in to dominate the streets. Americans haven't seen the US military being called to patrol city streets for several decades.
Again, it depends upon who is doing the figurin'. Obviously there is a cost to the taxpayers for illegal immigration. The question is, how much of the cost of the wall will mitigate the cost of illegals. Will the Wall stop illegals? No, of course not. It will only slow them down. Same for your drug inference. Boats, tunnels and brute force will negate the wall. FWIW, FAIR is against all immigration, both legal and illegal, so their bias is obvious. Any Congressional or other governmental studies to back up your claim....or are they all in on the conspiracy to smuggle illegals into the USA?
