Warning, democracy in peril, scholars join national call for federal action to protect elections

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  1. Noone

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    You're a very skilled propagandist, the truth is there are conservatives in California; maybe they need to do a better job with their message.

    Vaccine requirements are nothing new, that you don't like this one is Your problem. I've had both shot and have been boosted. I also stayed home except for essential errands. When I did go out I wore a mask and did my best to distance. So far, knock wood, I haven't contracted. My little "petri dish" days following the best current advice is the way to go.

    I can only speak for myself, but "I" love Our Constitution, studied every word and think it's the greatest document ever written by men for man. I'm AbsaByGodLutely sure I'm not alone amongst "progs".
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are very incorrect. I am not defending conservatives or their brand of overreach; just pointing out that progs are no better.
     
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    "Progs"have NEVER tried to overturn a free and fair election or interfere with the peaceful transfer of power. "Progs" have NEVER attached OUR Capitol and wiped their **** on the walls of the most beautiful public building in the world; NRVER!
     
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    "Attacked" OUR Capitol. :roll:
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Election results have been contested and claims of a stolen election and an illegitimate president are not exclusive to Trump. The capitol argument is the weakest as no reasonable person could blame our previous pres for the actions of a few thugs. You are right, but are not pointing with clean hands.
     
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    Those"thugs" would NOT have been in Washington if not at tRump's bidding. I'm no one and AbsaByGodLutely blame Benedict Donald for January 6th.

    It is within the right of any loser to contest an election. tRump exhausted every legal means to challenge the election and went on to lean on Republican election officials to change the outcome ... ILLEGALLY. He STILL hasn't conceded the election he clearly lost and continues to protest the outcome and encourage his followers to join him.

    My hands are squeeky clean.
     
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    LOL, leaning on a politician is illegal? Time to jail Pelosi!
     
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    It is if you ask him to do you a favor, though, and falsely change the outcome of an election.
     
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  9. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Inciting insurrection is not a case anyone has been able to make. You are right about him still holding onto power, but only in your mind. Sorry, but your party works to erode the constitution you claim to love. I gave you examples.
     
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    My love for the Constitution is not a "claim" it's a fact.

    I didn't, in this thread, "claim insurrection". Benedict Donald's sycophants attacked, vandalized and literally **** on OUR Capitol. That's unprecedented by American citizens.

    He still claims to be cheated out of power and wants to be reinstated, even though there is no legal means for that to happen. That's a fact not a figment of my imagination. By attacking me you have conceded the argument.
     
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    Yes, we know you used a sweeping generalization fallacy in your failed attempt to connect their actions to the previous pres. You are still incorrect.

    I never attacked you; I challenged your position based on your support for the party that works to erode the constitution. I gave you examples you are now dodging. Dodging shows that one is uninformed or that the truth does not support their position.

    If attacks are a concession, you killed your own argument.
     
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    If all politicians work like this, then why is the first one to do this? And why are you offended that people would hate him for trying to overthrow our Constitutional elections? Isn't that something than anyone who actually cares about the Constitution (which obviously does not include yourself) would hate?
     
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    Says the guy who has confessed to not caring about, and actively running interference for, an ACTUAL attempt to erode the Constitution. That's rich.
     
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    The same stuff is spouted in my country, and there is no Trump here.

    It comes from the same people who want to police thought and speech. How's that for irony.
     
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    - No, I said they were in Washington, in the first place, at Benedict Donald's bequest. Of course he's connected to the Capitol's attackers, they were his most ardent supporters and he brought them to DC.

    - You keep claiming I support " the party that seeks to erode the Constitution, that's not true. The only "party" that's attacked the Constitution are the tRumpublicans, I sure as hell don't support them. Your "examples" are undocumented, therefore OPINION. I'm not dodging anything. I refuse to get into a pissing contest over opinions, especially yours.

    - You "claim to be unbiased, your posts kill that argument nonsense.
     
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    They don't need to, because they have a much more powerful tool. Propaganda.
     
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    :roll:

    Have you read his posts, they are pure propaganda.
     
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    I was thinking more of the ideology-driven old school propaganda the Progs indulge in.
     
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    Factless opinion.
     
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    Falsely?
     
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    !!!FALSELY!!!
     
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    Of course. Because Progressives are so big on diversity of thought!
     
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    Generally, yes. That doesn't mean I take factless potshots. 8)
     
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    It is so predictable that one side blames the other side for what it does itself. The lies we are hearing from government right now are the worst I can remember and I normally view everything a government says as lies. How much more fascist can it be than to import future voters for your political party? How much greedier can it get than to screw up the economy in order to buy votes? Sorry, laughable.
     
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    Ya think?
     

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