We are about to see a check on honor and integrity.

And the Repubs changed it in 2016 by setting a precedent. They said no filling seat in election year. It’s an election year.

 

no they didn’t the rule was there since 1992. they didn’t change the rule until recently

they didn’t make the biden rule. Biden did

 

And the Repubs set a precedent for not filling a seat during an election.

 

no they didn’t make the rule they did however change the rule due to the dems wishes

 

There's a reason that politics is considered dirty and has been for decades, if not centuries. It sure isn't because of "honor". Though this may alter the old saying of "the only thing worse than a politician is a lawyer". "Lawyer" and "politician" may get their placement in that old saying reversed.

 

Surprise, surprise. Politicians acting like politicians.

 

Hardly, Republicans didn't want to seat a liberal hack to a lifetime seat on the Supreme Court. In this situation they can please their constituents and ensure the court stays conservative for a generation. Its a no brainer. If it was the liberals doing this I wouldn't like it, but I certainly would understand it...

 

Wait, so I understand....you say Repubs didn’t want to seat a liberal? That’s shocking. I would have never expected that.

 

They set a precedent to not fill a seat during an election year. It’s an election year.

 

The senate has advise and consent. They didn't consent to Garland. They still have it today. 100% constitutional.

 

And Graham will have to live with the results of his election.

 

Pretty sure the Rs around here of the hyper-partisan Trump flavor would have supported McConnell blocking Sotomayor and Kagan if he'd had the opportunity. Moscow Cocaine Mitch would have been better served if he'd simply stated the truth back in 16: "We will not confirm any further judicial nominations by this President, and especially one to the SC."

 

No, they had the same chance and they didn't block Kennedy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_judicial_appointment_controversies

 

That's a fact Black....

 

they confirmed him then, but the seat opened a year earlier and his nomination was after the dems already blocked Reagan’s first choice. Not quite the same thing and once more the Biden Rule hadn’t been created

 

That you unequivocally support Trump belies the values you so frequently espouse on this website.

 

Actually, it means that you don't agree and think your own conclusions are the only correct views. You are entitled to believe what you want.

Given the state of politics today, the constant question that keeps coming back is how can so many grown up people act and think like angry children? How can they discard time-honored and proven values and replace them with junk because their emotions are not satisfied? I know little kids that do that, but adults should be far above it. Perhaps that is the problem; too many grown up bodies still using child logic.

Trump is temporary. One would think the left believes he will rule till he dies, then his children will rule, then their children, like it was North Korea.
You lived through the Obama years, you will survive the Trump years too- and perhaps eventually look back and see how much good he did.
I know we will all look back and see how much damage the left has done in the last few years.... I only hope that we have enough maturity to learn from it and never allow it to happen again.

 

LOL! Democrats are here because of their own actions and still they blame Republicans. Trump got elected because of the democrats silly shenanigans. This time they could win, all they had to do was not be crazy but that failed. Now they are scrambling.....

 

This is another thing that you do that belies the values you espouse. This angry children bullshit and twisting the discussion to identity politics.

That you unequivocally support Trump belies the values you so frequently espouse on this website has nothing to do with me or my opinion - it is all you.

 

I do support Trump as he is far and away the only sound choice available to us. That doesn't mean I think he is flawless- just the clear and best way to go. IF the democrats had anybody that really could offer more, they wouldn't be running this endless dog & pony show with all the gas-lighting, nor would they be endorsing anarchists that terrorize the public. It's not a hard decision.

The comparison to children is easy for any mature adult, especially parents and people who work with children to understand. A child's reasoning is all based on emotion and what they want right now. It doesn't consider the future, rarely considers anyone else, and they lack the ability as well as the material and reason to rationally make a case for what they want. That is being demonstrated everyday; it started with the mocking and ridicule when Trump announced he would run, and we've watched them run a continuous string of get-even dirty tricks and endless bad-mouthing ever since- and they never understand that they are doing it to themselves.

The issue is individual capacity to manage your own mind- to discipline your thinking to consider al the facts without distorting to tip the scales, understanding priorities by which I mean separating the things that actually make a difference and the things we do have the power to change- and ignoring, not arguing over things of no real impact or beyond our power anyway. Mature people generally learn to do that; immature ones don't. While maturity physically is chronological- mental maturity is not; it is something many will never accomplish in their lives. The latter is the bulk of the arguments from the left, and as quickly as they lose one they invent another. When they realize they have nothing, they just blow it all off like they didn't hear anything. Just like spoiled adolescent kids do.

The democratic party of the past, say 50 years ago, was a reasonably responsible one with pretty good people in charge, as well as following. That is not true today; I don't think the democrats have the vision or character left to manage anything wisely. You are free to hate Trump, as many do- and unfortunately that is mostly for personal reasons which affect nothing. However...

It's not Trump followers allowing riots to destroy cities and livelihoods. It's not Trump supporters that want to teach our children that America is a bad place, that they have some kind of original sin that can never be erased, and that they should see themselves as having no value. It's not Trump supporters threatening society with cancel culture, or having it's members of congress stand up in public and tell the people to seek out the Trump supporters where ever they find them and tell them they aren't wanted... Maxine Waters style. Unfortunately, the democrats have become victims of their own obsession, and have lost site of both their heritage and their future- and worst of all, of their own self-respect.

And you think Trump is a bad choice compared to that?
You know better. May not admit it- but you know it.
You will know it in the voting booth, too.
A million people just like you will curse Trump on the way in- and then vote for him.
I won't tell.

 

You wake up yesterday or something there Rip power politics has been in style since Ramses II convinced the folks back home the Kadesh was a huge victory instead of a strategic draw from which he barely escaped with his life.

 

everything "hung fire" with a 4-4 court for much longer when Garland was nominated. From March 16, 2016 to April 7, 2017

 

Exactly.

Republican "arguments" are ephemeral

As consistent and permanent as smoke

 

McConnell made it clear in 2016 and is reinforcing the notion once again........Repubs believe there are no "American voters" any more. Just Dems and Repubs.

Regard for honor, tradition, the founding principles on which the nation was formed, the will of the majority,.......these are quaint relics of the past. Trump only knows contempt for such things. If Dems continue to pretend otherwise they will be crushed.

The time has come to put the big boy pants on and do what McConnell would do. Find a way to use the power of the majority, which he does not have, to annihilate the POT by whatever means are necessary.

Stack the court. Abolish the EC. Reform the Senate to stop the disproportionate representation of red state voters. Bring the will of the majority to bare on the country with absolutely no regard for the wishes of the minority.