We have a responsibility on this Forum to do our part, however small, to stop White Supremacists

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  1. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ok agreed. If you believe your skin color is the source of your moral worth and entitles you to special favors, laws, quotas and privileges, then that's racism. Seems like there's more of that on the Left than the Right, though I'm sure the Right has plenty of bigots.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    And that is a large part of what the internet is for :D
     
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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, he certainly didn't win by appealing to our reason and intellect, did he? Just what is idealistic, principled, moral, and American about any of Trump’s positions? I say none, zero, zilch, zip, nothing.

    He appealed to most toxic emotion we have, fear.
     
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    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    Knock yourself out.
     
  5. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Above all: don't go out hunting for ways to excuse them!
     
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    Actually WE kinda do, considering there seem to be a couple of them on the forum. I mean there's ones on almost all forums but we're talking about this forum so....yeah.
     
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    When you want to make a point in a post, the post should describe the point, not something deflective that you can later deny it as your point.

    Exponentially???? More hyperbole. When Trump exaggerates you call him a liar. Hmmmm. 48 to 26 over 18 years is mathematically deficient to show any trend.

    I'll just add one day to your 18-year period and jump your 26 to 3000 killed by jihadists since 9/10.

    The biggest fault is assigning mass killers with the white supremacist or right wing extremist labels. The Las Vegas shooter? Seung-Hui at VA Tech? Adam Lanza, 20 who killed his mother at Sandy Hook first? Kelly at the church in Texas? The former student at Parkland Fla? One could not ascribe strong political leanings to any of these mass killers and most of the victims were white which seems a goofy way to push white supremacy. The only one that comes even close is Dylann Roof in Charlestown who said he wanted to start a race war and targeted blacks in a church. But is he right wing or just batshit crazy?

    On the other hand the Jihadists are clearly identified and proud of it, like Orlando, San Bernadino and Ft. Hood which alone account for 76 of your 26 deaths and just since 2009.

    Don't throw out goofy statistics and criticize me for not having similar numbers.
     
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    oh brilliant. What happens when the police show up?
     
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    There are two possibilities. First, take the headline message and then say 'whites are superior'. Second, investigate the evidence and realise that environmental factors dominate. Guess which the white supremacist chooses?

    There are two possibilities. First, take the headline message and then say 'blacks are more criminal'. Second, undertake criminology econometrics and realise that racial effects drop out with the inclusion of other socio-economic variable. Guess which the white supremacist chooses?
     
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    They're free to refute it by taking a strong stand against Nazis or white supremacists too. But those who deserve the pointing finger of guilt attack the left instead or simply object with no vigorous agreement against right extremism. And that suggests the accusation was correct in the first place.
     
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    ✔ True news.

    ✔ Hypocrites like Ted Nugent and Dennis Miller?
     
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    Therefore, if someone were to assert that individuals differ in intelligence due to differences in both their environments and genetic heritage, and that genetics plays a bigger role than does environment in creating IQ differences among individuals, they would show that they are a white supremacist?

    How about someone who explicitly asserts that, between certain ethnic groups, one is more intelligent than the other, due to genetic reasons -- also a white supremacist?
     
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    The therefore is simple: do your research. To take dodgy racial differences and not to research them first is standard white supremacist territory. Crikey, you should know that so stop with the nonsense.
     
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    The shooter will be shot and on the ground. The police are unable to stop mass shootings.
    If fact, the police have demonstrated that there seldom able to stop crime - period.
     
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    And what is this effective strategy you want us anti-racists to look into?
     
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    I doubt that genetics is an important factor, but there have been apparently well meaning
    researchers who have attempted to prove such a correlation.
    The Bell Curve comes to mind. The researchers may not have been white supremacists, but there are too many non-genetic factors to establish a true link to IQ IMO.
     
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    Totalitarianism. Censor racist speech. Arrest the members of hate groups as defined by the SPLC. Flood the country with POC's to make Whites a minority within their own country. Totalitarian suppression is the only recourse when your enemy has truth on their side.
     
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    I'm not. Why are you advocating thought supremacy? Are you a thought supremacist? Are you a reader of minds? Are you anti-white?
     
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    Statisticians, being very clever people, know how to control for non-genetic factors and have always succeeded in establishing a "true link."
     
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    Nonsense, most Trump supporters and gun rights activists want the Nazis and white supremacists to be shot down in the act by their targets.

    Death to the Nazi white supremacist killers. Clear enough?
     
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    That is why they are commonly referred to as Big Liars. ;-)
     
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    I was just quoting a study, not defining my core beliefs. The truth is I don't know if it's a factor or not, I was simply offering a possible explanation for your friend's attitude. But you know him; I don't.

    Or Occam's razor: Some people beat him up and harassed him growing up, so he hates those people.
     
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    Fair enough...
     
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    No.
     
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    More ineffective election cycle slander.
    That nonsense does not work because Trump is obviously not a racist.
    The DP needs to fire its overpaid political strategists - stat.
     

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