We Support Donald Trump II

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Smartmouthwoman, Aug 25, 2019.

  1. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, I'm way more radical than liberals and conservatives, I seek to change the whole moral fabric of the universe. I don't waste time arguing about decimal points and human sacrifices; I fight for unadulterated and unfettered self-interest, and unbridled individualism. I fight for the ideal.

    Ayn Rand: "The ideal political-economic system is laissez-faire capitalism. It is a system where men deal with one another, not as victims and executioners, nor as masters and slaves, but as traders, by free, voluntary exchange to mutual benefit. It is a system where no man may obtain any values from others by resorting to physical force, and no man may initiate the use of physical force against others. http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/objectivism.html
     
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  2. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know. Its too easy...and almost not worth the effort. BWTF, that's not how you spell "kissing".
     
  3. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One can only inflict by force, not by ideas. My idea: my life, my stack, keep your dirty rotten envious self off it, Jack. Or to put it more politely, you live yours and I'll live mine, and then let's see who brings a gun to the arena of ideas--the idealist or the pragmatist? I know which one. Do you?

    Ayn Rand: To force a man to drop his own mind and to accept your will as a substitute, with a gun in place of a syllogism, with terror in place of proof, and death as the final argument—is to attempt to exist in defiance of reality. Reality demands of man that he act for his own rational interest; your gun demands of him that he act against it. "http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/physical_force.html
     
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  4. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Donor

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    Yeah, I've heard of it, its called LaLaLand. Enjoy your stay. :pc:
    Meanwhile in the real world...

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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The difference in energy between Trump and Biden is striking...
     
  6. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One of us is in the real world, but Trump is "Clueless in the White Us".

    But you are right. He's still the president--more's the pity----and a perfect reflection of the pragmatic mind.
     
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  7. Sandy Shanks

    Sandy Shanks Well-Known Member Donor

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    In the first place, as you know, I use many sources. In the second place, you are implying that I have written something inaccurate.

    Please tell us what I got wrong and why.

    You can't. Yeah, that is what I thought. Just another meaningless accusation from a Trumpet. That is all they can do. Rarely is there a basis for their ludicrous accusations.

    Now ask yourself, what am I doing? Why am I supporting Trump? He consistently lies to Americans. He is an admitted sexual predator. He bribed a foreign leader, wanting foreign interference in our Presidential election solely to benefit himself, and he has ordered a surrender of American forces solely for the benefit of Russia and her ally, Iran. All that doesn't go away with cartoons and mindless phrases written by a stranger.

    Tell me, as an American, how can you support a man like that?

    Are you and your kind American?
     
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    USA Today writes, "Russian troops have occupied positions in Syria that just days ago had been U.S. outposts, filling the vacuum left when President Donald Trump ordered the withdrawal of American forces from the war-torn country, according to the Russian military and a U.S. official.

    "The move illustrates how quickly the ground has shifted in Syria since Trump's call last week with Turkish President Recip Tayyip Erdogan. The Turkish president told Trump that his forces planned to invade Turkey to attack Kurdish forces there that it considers terrorists. Trump announced after the call that U.S. forces would withdraw from the region. The Kurds, facing an onslaught from Turkey, have swung their allegiance from the United States to the Syrian regime of Bashar al Assad and his Russian patron."

    Never in my life have I felt ashamed of my country. Our country has made mistakes, but they were honest mistakes and they were intended to strengthen America, not weaken it, as is the case here.

    Here we have a President who made a conscious effort to weaken America and strengthen hostile foreign powers such as Turkey, Bashar al-Assad's Syria, Russia, and Russia's ally, Iran.

    It is no wonder Trump's supporters are turning away in shame as is the leadership of Trump's own party.
     
  9. Foxfyre

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    The sad thing is this is true and one more excellent reason to re-elect President Trump:

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  10. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Donor

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    You merely repeat other people's opinions. NYT, CNN, ABC, etc. All I asked was your personal opinion of an actual Trump action like his statements regarding Turkey. Can you do it without a prop?

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    95% approval within the Republican Party.
     
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    It has only been since Clinton was elected that the Democrats started thumbing their noses at the basic values that have made America the great country that it is. I think President Trump understands that better than any President of our lifetime:

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    Oh, I get it--locking the barn door after the horses get out. Oh, brilliant strategy from America's Obi-Wan.
     
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    Like I wrote above - All of the right people hate him. That's enough for me.
     
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    You nailed it—all the right minds do—those in their right minds.
    Yaron Brook on Ayn Rand, Trump, and America.
     
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    I've got to hand it to you, starjet. You make my point better than I do.
     
  17. Foxfyre

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    Hmmm, Starjet and bricklayer work so well together and use the same syntax so frequently, it's almost like they are the same person. Oh well. . .there will always be those like them and like Sandy who look to the assigned talking points and code words of the day or week and rarely, if ever, do any serious research to know what the actual truth is. And those who accuse President Trump of being clueless are so misinformed themselves that they miss how really well informed he is, and how he is using that to help us all make America great again.

    Something the President knows that the radical left still has to learn:
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    Still working on a response, Sandy?

    Here's another quote by Trump. Tell us how you feel about this?

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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually, it’s easy—Trump, the pragmatist vs Ayn Rand, the Objectivist. And It’s ideal.
     
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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There’s a difference between demanding your friend fights his own battles and stabbing your friend in his back. Isn’t there?
     
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    Biggest problem in the ME is knowing who's your friend and who's your enemy. Trump is right, let them fight their own fights. Just because we got involved in the past doesn't mean we have to keep repeating our mistake

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    If Trump had organized a draw down then a pull out conferring with all experts ............... instead of getting played by Erdogan

    Trump might not have Lost 50 Nuclear bombs



    President Donald Trump ordered the withdrawal of U.S. troops remaining in the region last week, making way for Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan to launch an attack against U.S.-allied Kurdish forces.

    But apart from the situation facing Kurds in the region, Trump’s decision leaving “administration officials scrambling to find a plan for the nuclear weapons stored under American control at the shared Incirlik Air Base in south east Turkey.”

    Officials from the Departments of State and Energy, which manage the country’s nuclear arsenal, met over the weekend to figure out “how they might retrieve an estimated fifty tactical nuclear weapons held at the site.”

    One official told The New York Times that Erdogan is essentially holding the weapons hostage — a situation that arises about a month after the Turkish leader said it was “unacceptable” that Turkey is not allowed to obtain nuclear weapons itself.
     
  23. Sandy Shanks

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    Yeah, that is what I thought. You couldn't find a thing to dispute.

    What does that mean? It means, according to you, what I report is what is happening, it is reality.

    Reality, not opinions. I use sources to support what I say. Only a Trumpet would find something wrong with that.

    Occasionally, I provide fact-based opinions, but they are mine, no one else's. But the key point is, you could not even dispute my opinions. You are forced to agree with them even if you can't say so.

    Think about that.
     
  24. Smartmouthwoman

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    LOL, no they're not your opinions. If they were you (1) wouldn't need links and (2) wouldn't need to carry on conversations with yourself.

    Try again?

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    I also maintain a double standard. Nationally, I'm a libertarian. Internationally, I'm a nationalist.
     

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