Well it's been fun guys. I'm off the Trump train.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by RiseAgainst, Sep 14, 2017.

  1. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Or you are a radical dreamer chasing an unrealistic fantasy that will always put you on both the fringe and the losing end of an election.

    BTW, do you consider Trump a true Republican? A true Conservative?
     
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    Mac-7 Banned

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    Really?

    The guy you voted for is not in the white house but trump is

    So you are the one spinning your wheelsa, not me
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To be clear...

    You now hate Trump because his level of hate doesn't meet your requirements.

    Just to be clear.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't expect the person I voted for to win the Presidency. What you are saying is equivalent to advising a woman who is about to be gang-raped to "lay back and enjoy it." I refuse to be virtually raped by our election system. Voting Third party is part of that resistance. You are free to lay back and enjoy it....but it appears you willingly now have a case of herpes. ;)
     
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    AtsamattaU Well-Known Member

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    So what do your videos have to do with this thread aside from trying to spin homelessness into hatred for immigrants? I mean, who are the people living in this River View Village? Turns out others have actually looked into it. Here's one:

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    That's David Doan, a guy who was VP of a company in Anaheim but got fired by his own father, then got a divorce, then had a heart attack. Some bad luck, but also some very bad choices. I feel bad for the guy, but what does he have to do with immigration?

    Let's see, here's another one:

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    That's Bruce Bishop. He's a former union worker, but thanks to a DUI and poor money management, he's now a day laborer and homeless.

    You can read about plenty more of them at http://www.ocregister.com/2017/07/2...-the-shadow-of-the-big-a-here-are-11-stories/. What kind of person would exploit these down-on-their-luck Americans to advance some kind of warped agenda?
     
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    I am not getting raped by the guy I voted for

    He was the better choice than hillary and that matters a great deal more than you preserving your right to say "I told you so"

    You should engage the system and make it better rather than just sitting on the sidelines
     
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  7. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL. We shall see. As it is, I keep hoping he'll resign and President Pence has at least 6 months in office before November 2018.
     
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    Do you qualify for a settlement like TrumpĀ® U alumni?

     
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    Well you technically cant rape the willing, perhaps you enjoy getting lied to though.

    What does Hillary have to do with anything...your only comparison should be is he doing better then Obama at this point.
     
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    Thats an odd thing to say

    Why does the date 2018 matter to you
     
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    The practical choice in 2016 was down to trump or hillary

    And trump was much better
     
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  12. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't worry about it. It's just another November.
     
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    That is impossible to know, and not even worth bringing up, as it does not matter. No one has precognition to know what in the hell would be transpiring now if we actually went by popular vote rather then electoral.

    And there were 16 practical choices aside from Trump.

    To avoid sounding like a tool through..quit bringing up the fact you hope Trump is better then a hypothetical.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nice tangent, but the fact remains our electoral process is set. The Republicans hated Trump, but were honest enough to let party members elect their own nominee. The Democrats were corrupt and put up a candidate contrary to many of their members. They paid a price for that corruption by seeing many members stay home in a critical election.
     
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    Riiiiight....
     
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    This will be the newest excuse for his endless line of screw-ups.

    LOL
     
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    Oh GAWD
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Cycles in History exist many of them. Your claim that none of these cycles are identified with accumulating wealth is beyond abject nonsense. Feudal system, Russian Revolution and so on (way too many to count).... the Senators in Rome spent much time trying to figure out how to keep the poor fed ... so they would not revolt. The whole battle of history between those at the top and those not so lucky repeats itself over and over. The ruling elite spend a large amount of time trying deal with this problem. Religion for example became a very useful tool.
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    Indeed.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump is following in the same footsteps of Obama who followed the same path as Bush. The mess will continue to get worse under Trump.
     
  21. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    You won ONE election, and that by a technicality. The demonstrable majority of the people did not support you or your agenda on election night and I defy you to rationally argue that number has increased. Most of us are more concerned that a real illness will bankrupt us than worried that the Koch Bros will go to Singapore. hearnig someone speak Spanish does not send us into a blind rage and we really don't care who's in the stall next to us in the bathroom but really wish they would clean it more often

    If you keep on pushing a radical agenda that only a minority agrees with you will galvanize the majority to turn against you, indeed, you already have.. Even TRUMP realizes this now and this is why he is backpedaling on certain issues. Unfortunately, for him, he is too invested in most of his agenda to do anything but double down. This is why the Republicans are going to lose so badly in 2018 and 2020. And once Trump is impeached and incarcerated I predict people will be ashamed to even admit they WERE Republicans by 2020
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    If you go after the 41% you may get the Independents, and you might even get some of the liberals if you would offer VIABLE alternatives. You're not going to get anyone by saying that all those who can't afford top tier medical should die, there should be cattle cars full of immigrants bound for the borders and we need armed guards checking genitalia at all our bathrooms
     
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    oh cry me a river.

    LOL!!!!
     
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    Well I mean, I actively worked in the primaries against Trump (though was not a never Trumper), but I feel like what's going on isn't that crazy. Trump is frustrated with Republicans bucking his agenda. GOP leadership has been unable to pass things - things they got on Obama's desk they suddenly can't get on Trump's. If things don't change, Trunp is done for - he will be a one term President who didn't accomplish anything.

    He's basically left with the choice to work with Democrats. And I think it's a power play - he's showing Republicans that if they can't work with him, he is willing to reach across the aisle to get things done. He's shown support for the Republican agenda - but Republicans somehow, with control of both houses, been unable to produce legislation they promised for Trump to sign.

    Don't blame Trump for that.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Smash this, compare the USA's overall standard of living to any that has ever gone before, Go back a mere 50 years and to any nation on Earth, now show me the metrics and tell me which one was better. If we're so badly off why are we doing so much better than anyone ever did before?

    If we've all been exploited mercilessly for the last half century then why do so many of us have time to endlessly bitch on boards like this? Why aren't you working your 12 hours? If we're all being endlessly shat upon why do we smell so good.
     
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