What ever became of conservative deficit hawks?

His personality cult appear to have abandoned cognitive faculties and is driven by emotions.

As Forbes had previously reported, Trump's tax plan could increase the national deficit By $5.3 Trillion.

In his scheme to bloat the US deficit, the reality tv performer hopes to accelerate the transfer of wealth to the wealthy.

 

You guys have won.

You're getting your way. No fiscal restraint ever, just as you've always dreamed. Congratulations I guess.

 

Granny says, "Dat's right - all dem taxes an' we still broke...

Feds Collect Record Income and Payroll Taxes Through March--Still Run $526,855,000,000 Deficit
April 14, 2017 | The federal government collected record amounts of both individual income taxes and payroll taxes through the first six months of fiscal 2017 (Oct. 1, 2016 through the end of March), according to the Monthly Treasury Statement.

 

From 1961 until Obama, democrats tended to increase the debt less than republicans. I suppose republicans are okay with the debt as long as it's being used to kill people, as opposed to giving them healthcare.

 

What can't you like about it ?

 

I'm still here.

 

Very few people on either side actually give a **** about taxes or the deficit. This is because the Republicans just want massively increased spending on their favoured stuff.

Unfortunate but true.

 

What do you mean?

 

So...if you give people healthcare, then the debt or deficit doesn't matter?

 

If the Democrats didn't care about taxes, they wouldn't be howling at the moon as always about the failed policies of tax cuts going to the wealthy, that have proven over and over not to work. So no, both sides are not the same.

In the meantime, using this poor excuse of yours, doesn't address the argument.

 

I mean the left has won the argument on debt and deficits...they don't matter.

I disagree with that conclusion. I think they matter a lot, but it looks like we are going to have to relearn from experience that's true.

 

Throwing $54 billion at a Pentagon that has just been exposed as wasting $125 billion is an especially lavish way of rewarding fiscal irresponsibility and bloating the national deficit.

 

Where has this fiscal concern been over the last eight years? (relax, it's a rhetorical point)

Your posts would have at least a bit of authority were they not so blatantly partisan and hypocritical.

 

It appears that you rather kvetch about the past than honestly confront more timely concerns.

The Mar-a-lago Messiah has proclaimed his intent to throw $54 billion at a Pentagon that has been exposed as wasting $125 billion.

Forbes analysis of his schemes bloating the deficit is relevant.

Perhaps, it's just one more fake claim of his, but surely his stated intent is of far greater import that reminiscing about accountancy of yore in an attempted digression from this timely matter.

 

My comment has nothing to do with the grass fire you are pointing at while you said nothing as your house burned down in the background.
It was intended to point out the blatant hypocrisy of people who suddenly now seem concerned about fiscal accountability when they have been silent for eight long years.
You seem to not only have no sense of true accountability but no shame as well.

 

What ever became became of conservatives in general. Once upon a time in America there were conservatives with ideas. I disagreed with most of them, but that doesn't negate the fact that they were worthy of serious debate. Alas, the Buckleys and Goldwaters have been replaced by the likes of Limbaugh and Trump. We can only hope that this too shall pass.

 

Thinking conservatives are now branded liberals or otherwise rejected for not backing Dear Leader.

 

I've always supported a balanced budget amendment. Nothing has changed.

 

The Republicans are only deficit hawks when they're not in power. As soon as they take the reigns, the checkbook comes out.

It's just like how they are the "family values" party but elected as president an adultering, thrice-married, domestic abusing, sexual assaulting, philanderer who doesn't even live with his wife and young son. Them's sure some family values.

 

The entire conservatism concept was effected and evolved by the Tea Party contingent rewriting Republican ethos. It has become a dysfunctional and blind party with questionable ethical social and economic positions which bleed into military and political actions as the two become intertwined.

 

If you voted Republican, you did not support a balanced budget or even deficit reduction during any of the past 30-40 years.

 

I think the old saying is true -

Republicans borrow and spend.
Democrats tax and spend.

 

Evangellies worship of the mendacious narcissist/materialist raised hypocrisy to a new level, but the GOP's lip service to budgetary prudence is par for the course.

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Do you have a link to that so we can invalidate the source?

 

No, I was saying that things have a cost, and what you get for that cost matters. It is better to get something for a deficit than what we got for Iraq, for example. Though in the case of healthcare, government funded would be more efficient, even if it results in an increase in taxes (the responsible thing to do when you spend more) with a simultaneous shrink in a less well-suited part of the private sector (for-profit health insurance).