What good would a high (standard) capacity magazine ban do?

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Theres no way to track them. If I dont voluntarily hand over my mags and instead say 'I dont have any' theres no way to prove otherwise. Which is precisely what everyone is going to do.

    Besides that, a magazine is a very simple mechanism. Not only can several of them be combined to make one 'high cap' with rudimentary mechanical skill, they can be made from scratch pretty easily as well.
     
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    Canoe accidents approached epidemic levels here in Colorado in 2013.
     
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    Wrong, a working and armed tank is not legal to own for any ordinary citizen. You may own an antique and non functional tank which is a big slow hunk of metal not a tank
     
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    What if Congress decides "high cap" is three rounds? If they can arbitrarily decide that 11 rounds is high capacity, there is no legal limit to that power.
     
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    Partially true, but there is no way to track illegal drugs either, but if they find them you go to the can, and can be forced to pay any fine that they legislate
     
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    The second amendment is the largest landmine in the Bill of Rights. Not one of your progressive marxist liberals in Congress is going to dare touch it, because they know if they do, it will blow their legs off and they'll get sent home from the war early with ringing in the ears wondering what the hell just happened..
     
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    Congress could legislate 1 round at a time, then reload, just like an older bolt action sniper rifle............One shot one kill
     
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    What if the NRA said ban high cap rounds? They could do that as well you know
     
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    Please provide the law that states this prohibition. You've have to have tax stamps for all the machine guns, and they'd have to be pre-1986, and tax stamps for every main gun round, but I'm not aware of any prohibition on any part of a real tank.
     
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    2a. That would be a purely police power measure, the federal government lacks a police power. It must use commerce and taxation schemes, and those depend upon a made from whole cloth interpretation of the commerce clause that even as widely expansive as it is does not permit regulating the number of bullets which is protected by the 2nd amendment.
     
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    Good point. As a comparison, how has the unconstitutional federal prohibition on marijuana affected your real-world ability to buy and use it? A magazine prohibition would be just that effective.
     
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    Not according to Caetano, Heller or Miller.
     
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    Most of us don't give a **** what the NRA thinks and consider them to be pikers.
    They don't do much of anything at all, and they roll over for gun regs all the time, see NFA, the Hughes amendment etc. Hell they came out for the bump stock ban ffs.
     
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    You just cant have a functional weapon mounted on it.
     
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    Call your town and ask them if active M1 heat and sabot rounds are legal to store in your town. They fall under HIGH EXPLOSIVES kid Then get back to me
     
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    Then it is not a working active tank is it?
     
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    You're claiming the 2a only extends to the tech in existence at the time of the founding.
    I assume you're doing this with block set type on a manual printing press, the letters written on which are delivered by horse messenger.
    I await your next missive in the 2-6 weeks it will take to arrive.

    O wait.....
    " Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment . We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, e.g., Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U. S. 844, Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, e.g., Kyllo v. United States, 533 U. S. 27, Second Amendment extends, prima facie,to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding."

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZO.html
     
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    https://www.drivetanks.com/

    They can even rent them out to people!!!! O the hugemanatee!
     
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    No one rents working armed tanks................as they would have to rent them to Mohammed too

    Sheesh think
     
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    Incorrect. See above
     
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    What does that have to do with federal laws or target rounds?
     
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    https://www.drivetanks.com/tanks-tracks/

    This business puts the lie to that. They can, and do, rent them for use. Yes of the main gun.
     
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    LOL so Bill Gates can buy a fully armed nuclear sub because of the second amendment.

    Look kids, I am fully pro second amendment, but you are all for the most part uninformed. Congress with enough members could ban toothpaste if they wanted too
     
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    I said a working armed tank is illegal, just admit that I am right?

    If I am wrong name the people who own them?

    Try
     
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    Oh man, I gotta go do that!
     
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