What good would a high (standard) capacity magazine ban do?

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  1. TheDonald

    TheDonald Well-Known Member

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    So you can buy a working tank, armed with active heat rounds and take it to the ballgame?

    Get help because you are delusional
     
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    Boy, that banning of heroin sure does keep them out of the hands of criminals, doesn't it.

    Congress could vote to reverse the 13th Amendment - it doesn't mean it becomes the law.
     
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    https://www.drivetanks.com/tanks-tracks/
    https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/02/legal-to-buy-a-tank/ (This Isreali T50 features a working 75-mm CN75-50 gun, and is BATFE approved (if you have your destructive device license).)
    http://www.armslist.com/posts/46162...ional-main-battle-tank-with-120mm-live-cannon (We are selling our Cheiftain MK 6, main battle tank with 120mm gun.

    This armored tank is fully functional. The 2 engines both run great and have low hours on them. It comes with a NEW backup main engine. The turret is fully operational and the stablization system works; it is controlled via a joystick. The main gun is registered as a Destructive Device with the ATF and comes with 10 projectiles. More projectiles are available. The barrel is in excellent condition and has never been molested. It has a factory laser range finder. Also included is the hydrolic mine plow and infrared spotlight. The intercom system works as does the NBC filtration.)


    You're entirely incorrect. Laughably so.
     
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    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

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    Do the people that own drivetanks.com own a working tank, and are they the government?
     
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    Too bad your town will arrest you when it is delivered to your trailer
     
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    What’s to stop someone from shooting a tank cannon,which is officially regarded as a “destructive device” by the ATF?

    “There’s no regulations pertaining to that,” Morrison said. “You’d have to abide by city ordinances, state law. I want to say there was some type of tank incident where they were shooting a .50 caliber machine gun into a lake,” and neighbors apparently called in complaints. “The moral of this story is they gotta be cognizant of the area where they are before they discharge something like that.” https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/operational-tank-for-sale-armslist/

    http://www.khou.com/news/local/hoa-fight-over-world-war-ii-tank-in-river-oaks/479844850
    Buzby here has his parked in River Oaks, the most expensive, elitest, hoity toity old townie neighborhood in Houston.
     
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    I live in a house, actually. My town has no local ordinances regarding destructive devices ownership. Sales? Sure. Use just anywhere? Sure. But ownership? Nah.

    My state doesn't have a problem either. https://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2008/03/texas-tx-what-nfa-firearms-can.html
    Its doesn't have further restrictions from NFA. The tax stamp is all i need.
     
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    Buy your tank and bring it home, the FBI, State and local cops will all be there waiting to impound your tank and give you a new home as well

    People like you are the reason for gun laws. So can Bill Gates buy a nuclear sub with active Trident missiles?

    Sheesh
     
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    So the gun ban was not real?

    Can you please think
     
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    Yeah so here's something I know you're not understanding: The tanks I've shown you are fully functional and fully legal.
    Fed law, State law and Local law all agree on this point. They would have no legal ability to impound it, its street legal, nor is possession of it a crime so I wouldn't be going anywhere.

    Under the original conception of the 2a? Yes, I've already answered this. Apparently you don't read responses.. I'm shocked, I'm sure.
     
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    What town has no ordinances covering bombs? which is effectively what a heat round is without the tank?

    And what town is this that is not part of the USA.

    God, you are making Hillary look bright
     
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    You talking the AWB? It banned cosmetic features, not the functioning arm.
     
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    Then buy it, as I said an idiot is easily deprived of their funds
     
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    The ban banned all burst and auto guns unless an exemption was granted, which means the government agents kept their guns against people they disagreed with (just saying)..........yes or no
     
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    Mine, apparently. Assault and arson are still illegal under state law, I feel like we'll be ok.

    What town is not part of the US? Where did I say that? I said it was cool under fed law, state law, and local law. Are you on the drogas?
     
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    I wasn't looking at buying it, I don't know how to operate a tank. You were the one saying it couldn't be bought, I was simply correcting your rank ignorance.
     
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    So you're talking about the Hughes amendment? Its unconstitutional and will be overturned eventually. Also the hughes amendment wasn't confiscation. Everyone with an existing arm was able to hang on to them. That's why you can still buy m16s and MP5s and all sorts of fun things
     
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    Then if you were Bill Gates and lived in your town he could buy and install his own nuclear weapons, patriot missile batteries, have his own stinger missile brigade and on and on.

    Really, name the town
     
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    LOL Again what town kid?
     
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    Everyone was allowed to keep certain things because that is what the ban called for, are you saying that just because you have a dirty coal plant that Congress can not shut it down? Again they can take anything, the constitution can not stop them either. Sure you can fight them to the death if you choose, but it is your death not mine.
     
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    Again, under the original conception of the 2a? Yeah, sure.

    Pearland, Tx.
     
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    The ban called for that because that was all they could get away with. A blanket ban would not be constitutional.
    No, they cannot simply take anything they should wish or for any reason they should wish.
     
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    The ban is not what they could get away with, it was what they agreed upon, some wanted more some wanted less, they compromised. If they all agreed upon a blanket ban, you would have to triple up on sheets because blankets would be illegal, so would assault weapons of all types. And bye they way assault weapons are banned, unless you consider the semi autos that look like assault weapons to be real assault weapons which you probably do
     
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    By definition, the semi-autos that look like M16s are the "assault weapons"; the fully automatic versions are by ATF definition machine guns. From the 1994 AWB:

    "
    Definition of Semiautomatic Assault Weapon.--Section 921(a) of
    title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the
    following new paragraph:
    ``(30) The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means--
    ``(A) any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the
    firearms in any caliber, known as--
    ``(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat
    Kalashnikovs (all models);
    ``(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and
    Galil;
    ``(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);
    ``(iv) Colt AR-15;
    ``(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;
    ``(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
    ``(vii) Steyr AUG;
    ``(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and
    ``(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to)
    the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;
    ``(B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a
    detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--
    ``(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
    ``(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath
    the action of the weapon;
    ``(iii) a bayonet mount;
    ``(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to
    accommodate a flash suppressor; and
    ``(v) a grenade launcher;
    ``(C) a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a
    detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--
    ``(i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol
    outside of the pistol grip;
    ``(ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel
    extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;
    ``(iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or
    completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter
    to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being
    burned;"
     
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    Regarding the "compromise": 45% of those Congress critters voting voted "no".

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/103-1994/h416
     

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