What happens if Trump deploys the military on the streets?

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  1. Diablo

    Diablo Well-Known Member

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    Is it even legal? Would the generals refuse to comply?

    What would be the rules of engagement? Would troops be allowed to live-fire on civilians?

    What would the 2nd amendment people do? We've heard for years about them keeping their guns to prevent just such a situation, so are the militias going to rise up and erect barricades to stop the tanks?

    Or mabe it would left to a lonely protester to stand there, like in Tiananmen square?
     
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    Deploying the national guard against the domestic terrorist organization yeah that's one of their purposes. And what happens if that happens is a few dumb white privileged college kids the chant black lives matter get a taste of real pepper spray and maybe some rubber bullets and then they go home.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yes its legal if he uses the the Posse Comitatus Act or The Insurrection Act and with the amount of destruction and violence going on with the cities and states not able or willing to take control he would be right to do so
     
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    A better question is how do we prevent Democratic voters from burning the country down? If you have a better idea than the military, we are all ears.
     
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    You don't seem to be concerned if rioting is legal.
     
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    He won’t do it. He will threaten it, to appear strong to his base, but he won’t do it.
    At some point someone will privately tell him no, he can’t do that. That It would actually hurt his chance of reelection. As soon as he hears that, he will back off.

    It is like so many things with trump - talk loudly and carry a small stick.
     
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    10 U.S. Code § 252.Use of militia and armed forces to enforce Federal authority


    Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion.
     
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    Troops would stop the looting and burning. Who is opposed to that?

    Democratic politicians in blue areas really botched this one. Someone has to be the adult in the room. Thank God we have Trump.
     
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    Don't you watch CNN it's peaceful protests. It was just a mild bonfire that got out of control and Target was having a shopping spree.
     
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    That's what the National Guard is for.

    Why would you think that the National Guard wouldn't be capable of quelling the riots, and the military would be needed? Are you trying to tell us something about how crazy destructive, and out of control, the leftists rioting in the streets are going to get?

    FYI, this is what "the 2nd Amendment people" are doing right now-
    They're defending national monuments against destruction by crazed left wing rioters.

    Any thoughts on that?
     
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    And in Philadelphia, a gun store owner took on four armed "peaceful protesters", killing one and injuring another. If the cops aren't going to protect innocent Americans, ARMED AMERICANS will.

    https://6abc.com/man-fatally-shot-at-south-philly-gun-shop/6226476/
     
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    Antifa is the militant wing of the Democratic Party (think: Irish Republican Army).

    If the blue state mayors and governors won’t stop them, Trump will.
     
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    Washington took out the Whiskey Rebels, Jefferson got rid of Burr, Lincoln got rid off the Southern slavers, the question is: Will Trump have the same courage to take out thieving, murdering, anarchistic scum? One can only hope.

    If the government doesn’t stop this blood-lust horror, the private militias will feel they have no choice but to defend their lives and livelihoods and will enter the conflict, and civil war will erupt.

    Trump, back up your words, or go down in history as a big-mouth coward who surrendered civilization to the mob. You will become America’s Nero.

    And to those who equate a hero standing up to communist state tank to thugs beating an elderly couple with crow bars and 2 x 4’s for trying to protect their lives and livelihoods —you have the soul of a rotting sewer.
     
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    Should states be able to use federal funds to fix their cities? If they just sit there and let it happen that’s on them.
     
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    I don’t believe it. 7 days and counting. Nothing done.
     
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    You don't seem concerned why there are riots.
     
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    If someone doesn’t stop this lawlessness, local armed militia groups will.
    So, in essence, we have 2 options - either allow the feds fix this problem or give rise to local warlords.
     
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    Nothing, I bought one of my guns decades ago after I saw the video of the Atlanta Police standing down the street under orders to do nothing but stick their thumbs up their butts while someone was dragged out of their car in their sight, beaten by Floyd's people, hit in the head with a brick, and had spray paint sprayed in his mouth as he was lifeless (as the helicopter camera panned down the street to Floyd's cops).
     
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    Armed militias will only protect what they care about, and they DO NOT care about the blue-city playpens the crazed leftist children are destroying.

    Militia members will sit back and laugh while the leftists burn their own cities.
     
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    National guard after they retake Minnesota.

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    Nope, I bought a third gun decades ago when Floyd's people started throwing objects over the chain link fence at Washington Road, where it crosses 285 in Atlanta, that was after George Floyd's people were dragging people from their cars and beating them.
     
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    While Trump flaps his lips and arms. Where is the military? Why won't leaders of a free nation but an end to this horror? Why? Because the intellectual and political leaders of this country are morally bankrupt.

    Ayn Rand: "Civil disobedience may be justifiable, in some cases, when and if an individual disobeys a law in order to bring an issue to court, as a test case. Such an action involves respect for legality and a protest directed only at a particular law which the individual seeks an opportunity to prove to be unjust. The same is true of a group of individuals when and if the risks involved are their own.

    But there is no justification, in a civilized society, for the kind of mass civil disobedience that involves the violation of the rights of others—regardless of whether the demonstrators’ goal is good or evil. The end does not justify the means. No one’s rights can be secured by the violation of the rights of others. Mass disobedience is an assault on the concept of rights: it is a mob’s defiance of legality as such.

    The forcible occupation of another man’s property or the obstruction of a public thoroughfare is so blatant a violation of rights that an attempt to justify it becomes an abrogation of morality. An individual has no right to do a “sit-in” in the home or office of a person he disagrees with—and he does not acquire such a right by joining a gang. Rights are not a matter of numbers—and there can be no such thing, in law or in morality, as actions forbidden to an individual, but permitted to a mob.

    The only power of a mob, as against an individual, is greater muscular strength—i.e., plain, brute physical force. The attempt to solve social problems by means of physical force is what a civilized society is established to prevent. The advocates of mass civil disobedience admit that their purpose is intimidation. A society that tolerates intimidation as a means of settling disputes—the physical intimidation of some men or groups by others—loses its moral right to exist as a social system, and its collapse does not take long to follow.

    Politically, mass civil disobedience is appropriate only as a prelude to civil war—as the declaration of a total break with a country’s political institutions."
    http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/civil_disobedience.html

    Case in point, the Hong Kong idealists fighting against Red China subjugation vs the American brainless mob of rioters and looters robbing, beating, and burning down their neighbors "life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness".
     
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    He can only do it in DC.
     
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    82nd Airborne Division's Immediate Response Force headed to Washington DC. We are about to find out. These military members are not your National Guard. The 82nd is one of the premier elite fighting forces of the U.S. Army. They have arrived in the District. If the citizens of this country choose to turn on them, God help us because Covid-19 will barely be a footnote in the history books for 2020!
     
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    Just like the neo-Nazis and the KKK are to Trump....
     

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