What has Feminism taken away from you?

You do realize there are different kind of brutality, physical and psychical right? Women fear the physical strenght of men since the very beginning of time, and it's a rightful fear because a male in nature has the capability and the potential will to beat/torture/kill a woman if pissed enough. That's why we made rules so that males can not so easily abuse of women.

You do not seem to realize the psycological power women can exert on men, and their defenses, which rely primarly on humiliation. Right? It's not possibly a case that everytime a woman wants to take revenge on her partner, she usually cheats with another man, some even go further and cheat purposely with a friend of their partner. Since they cannot beat their man, they take revenge in a different manner.

What many feminists do not realize is that men often act out of the bad behaviours of women.

Why you do on purpose so understimate the humiliation of a falsely accused man? 0,001%? As far as i know there are even raped girls who actually enjoyed it, think about college girls who, after purposely having sex with multiple boys during a party, they go back on their tracks the next day and accuse them of rape out of fear and frustration for being considered a slut among her playmates. There are many cases like this.

On the other hand, a man jailed for a rape accusation surely is going to experience a BAD time in jail.

Your statements make me think you are quite superficial and not qualified enough to perceive the big picture. By the way, are you a feminist? What led you to become a feminist if so?

 

A study by the Federal Bureau of Investigations found that over 8% of rape accusations are false

But the FBI doing a study on false accusations is kind of like Coke Cola doing a study on obesity so.....

 

I know why she's a feminist

She doesn't like men

Taikoo's own words:

"I know why I dont like or trust men."

 

Not a thing from me. I have absolute respect for women as fellow human beings and still manage to earn a living by my own talents and efforts.

 

Let me guess: you're an older male

 

How would you define "older"?

 

obvious to you, obvious to me, should be enough for a discussion between us.

You picked a rather extreme one by persons of low degree, not necessarily too representative. im sure if I chose to take revenge i'd be much more creative and less self-destructive.

Well, yes, that is after all, what i said. The meaning of "accusation" tho
is not conviction and punishment. If you meant the whole package, you would be better to have said so; it was not obvious at all, trust me!

You dont need to be pedantic, esp as i already addressed that.

No, you are assuming Im a lamebrain! sheesh, a little respect here svp!
I know there is a very wide range of experiences, I've listened to plenty of them.

There is no such thing as rape that is "just penetration".
surely you realize that. But the degree of coercion and or injury mental or physical varies. And.
some didnt happen at all, I do know that too.

It really depends, but if it is much worse, then maybe the punishment is not proportional. The rapist is himself a violent dangerous criminal, of course. Neither of us is in charge of the legal system, i really dont know what should be done with a violent rapist. Do you?

If it were now that someone wished to attack me, there'd be no trial.
I'd kill him.

Again it depends, i was not trying to write a treatise on all possibilities.
JUST being accused, as opposed to ending up innocent in jail with meanies,is nothing compared to being violently assaulted.

Im sorry you find it suitable to make up something about me. I do not
do double standards. Is it possible you do? If your conscience is clear, good, mine is.

 

...like old enough never to have been effected by affirmitive action

 

This is exactly why feminism even in moderate form is out of touch with reality and causing more harm than good.

I am sure that it is your belief and opinion that the pain of being falsely accused of rape is .001% as bad as suffering the acual crime of rape but that is an opinion based on ignorance.

Men falsely accused of rape may often go to jail prison where they may well be the victim of......rape. How is that .001% of what a rape victim goes through? How is it .001% of what a rape victim endures if that innocent man who has been falsely accused gets raped in prison by an HIV positive attacker who therefore gives him a de facto death sentence for a crime he did NOT commit?

How many professional or voluntary organizations exist to assist support and help rape victims such as RAINN or NOW or the police? Many many resources exist to assist and support and help rape victims often free of charge. No such organization exists to support or help or assist men falsely accused of a crime. How is that suffering .001% of what rape victims suffer?

No doubt most women who are rape victims have their family, friends, neighbors, co-workers and even churches if they belong to one all of who will be there to help such a victim to recover and heal physically, emotionally and psychologically. On the other hand most men accused of rape even if the accusation is false will be abandoned and shunned by their friends, family, coworker, neghbors and church if they belong to one. Because no one wants to be associated with such a foul crime. So how is that .001% of what the rape victims suffers?

Many women who are victims of rape can at least get the satisfaction of seeing the man who commited the crime locked up in prison. Somehow the women who levy false accusations are almost never prosecuted for destroying a mans life. Still think it is .001 % of what a rape victim suffers?

When rape is accused it is often spread all over the media. In the papers on the news etc. People will remmeber the accused man and in the court of public opinion this is how he is branded for LIFE. If it turns out he was falsely accused no one will pay attention except for very rare instances such as the Duke Lacrosse team. In the vast majority of false accusation cases no one hears the outcome which means the accused man must now spend the remainder of his life trying to explain his innocence to a world which does not want to believe him.

Every woman and man is different and every crime is different, there are varying degress of what rape victims suffer and what those falsely accused suffer but in general women who are victims of rape recover faster and go on to live a normal life putting their trauma behind them even if always carrying a scar.

As pointed out however most men suffer far longer when falsely accused, they lose more never to be regained they have no one to turn to and are wrecked for life.

The fact is a false accusation of rape is as bad or sometimes worse as rape itself. Or perhaps you could explain how it is only .001% as bad

 

I'm not that old, I would guess, but I do wonder how you or others have been affected by it. The effects I'm aware of are having quotas of certain minorities on staff at various employers.

Not that affirmative action policies need coincide with feminist ideas, and I would disagree with any feminist who would enact affirmative action policies as a way to try and shoehorn women into the workforce, just as I would disagree with any racist activist who would do likewise.

 

I suppose feminism is like christianity, it is whatever one thinks it is.

Not really, You are not following the context. An accusation of rape is in itself not anything so terrible, it may be come to more than being questioned and released. The was addressing just the accusation, not
anything else.

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Yes, and that is as i said, what may well be what has happened to
someone who hurt me. I dont know what has been happening in jail.
its too bad, I take no pleasure in it.

There is no need to lecture me, I disagree with none of this, and have had more reason to think about it, probably, than you. You simply misunderstood me. We are not taking opposite sides here.

I was very fortunate in that regard.

Neither you nor I have a way to put metrics to this.

My reason for saying what I said is that my experience, horrific and physically /mentally traumatizing as it was was far less than what
I know has happened to others.

Compared to just being accused, well, i will go with being accused.
When the topic came up i was just talking about the pain of being accused. IF it turned into gang rape, torture and murder in prison, then of course obviously that is another mater. Give me credit for some brains and compassion please!

For me it proved a very rancid kind of satisfaction,I dont know about others.

I dont have figures for that. Do you? If anyone makes a false accusation, they should be prosecuted, its not your fault, or mine if they are not.

This is your opinion for which I doubt you could supply any facts at all.
In both instances people suffer, its an injustice and a crime. Crime victims shouldnt be at eachother's throats. Ive made no false accusations, nor would I.

You have asserted it.

The accusation by itself is essentially nothing. The consequences of the accusation can range from a visit to the cop shop, to death by torture.

I compared the accusation of rape, to the rape itself.

This is the second post in which i have explained that, after an overwrought post suggesting that I[ve taken an unfair and unconscionable position.

I think that when the steam cooled it would be seen we've very little to disagree about. Other than you odd statement about feminism.

Enough on this now? I will get a headache if someone wants to go thru this again!

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So would I.

 

You're not a feminist if you don't believe in patriarchy theory(i.e. women are oppressed by men) any more than you're an African American if you wear baggy pants and listen to rap music.

 

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Good lord, if it is consensual its not rape. If there is no coercion its not rape. You have simply stated a falsehood that you invented.

Lets just say you cant find anything to say, without making something up.

 

Oh? There are feminists who think even consensual sex is rape. By the way, now please explain the following case, which happened in italy, in my country: " 5 boys accused of rape after having sex with a fellow school friend girl during a party, in which both 6 had drinking alcoholics before the rape ".

Now everyone with a little brains knows how things get going in those cases: all of them wished to have fun, including the girl, but the next day she was back on her tracks, she didn't want to be considered a slut and accused their friends of rape.

Now, they are in italy so they will not go to jail, nor they will be punished prolly, but what if they were in america, where crimes are actually punished, sometimes even without consistent proofs?

Let's hope we finally understand each other on this matter, once and for all. Girls can ruins others life or reputations even by making false accusations, that's it.

 

…and you can thank feminism for creating an environment where you can’t question a young woman’s accusation, and you can thank feminism for the majority of women who make false accusation not being charged with a crime. For example, Brian Banks was a football star who had a consensual sexual encounter with a young lady and the young lady subsequently accused Brian of kidnapping and rape. Even though there was no physical evidence, and it was his word against hers, Brian spent 6 years in prison and the young lady was awarded with 1.5 million dollars.

…However…the young lady contacted Brian via facebook and told him she wanted to meet him. Brian brought a hidden camera to their meeting where the young women said she wanted bygones to be bygones, she wasn’t kidnapped, she wasn’t raped, and the sex was consensual.

Brian was exonerated as a result of the video and advocacy from the justice project, but what happened to the young lady? That’s right. You guessed it. She wasn’t charged with a crime for making the false allegation.

As a result of feminism you can’t even question a young lady who makes an accusation without being accused of, “victim blaming,” As a result of feminism men are convicted of crimes they never committed based on a woman’s word alone and the absence of any other evidence. As a result of feminism not only were the young ladies accusations unchallenged, but she was awarded 1.5 million dollars. As a result of feminism this women didn’t even get charged with a crime when she admitted she made a false allegation.

The Brian Banks Story:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...accused-rape-signs-Las-Vegas-Locomotives.html

 

Keep in mind, Taikoo believes rape includes regretting sex the next day after having a couple drinks and having consensual sex.

...and when it comes to making something up...A feminist study came to the conclusion 1 in 4 women have been raped. The problem: three quarters of those women counted as rape victims in that, 'study' said they had never been raped.

 

Feminists live in a state of paranoia. They can't tolerate the idea of men having power over woman, expecially if it is physical power because that's precisely where they lack of. Basically, what they want is power. Their inmost desire is to have total power over men, pratically a hysterical need to have control over those who have the power to hurt them.

Feminism is not about equality between men and women, every sentient being should have realized by now, that it's much more about GETTING power over men. Luckily they will never succed as long as there are men alive.

A perfect solution would be if we all were hermaphrodite, no more differences between male and female...

 

Feminism is a supremacist hate movement, period.

 

It has led to the continuing ban on prostitution and legalised brothels.

That is wrong because it makes it harder to get sex hassle-free.

Feminism is what should be banned, IMO