What is Joe Biden's measured IQ?

Dr. Neal Kassel said (link above):

“He is every bit as sharp as he was 31 years ago. I haven’t seen any change,” Kassell said. “I can tell you with absolute certainty that he had no brain damage, either from the hemorrhage or from the operations that he had. There was no damage whatsoever.”

 

I love this quote!

 

Colorado has one of the better educational systems in America. The year before the pandemic, Colorado eighth graders were ranked the best in the nation. Yet two thirds of Colorado students graduate from high school, failing to have achieved mathematical proficiency. And that is the best in the country. This is not a new phenomenon. Have you not heard the quote, something about no one ever going broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.

 

whatever is Biden's IQ,

I bet it is higher than trump's or little bush's...both trump and little bush are dummies

I think big bush may be about the same as bidens

and obuma and clinton are higher than Biden..

both of these guys are sharp but I give the nod to obuma because he was smart enough to become president despite his skin color

and of the way Clinton handled the blowjob incident was pure stupidity

I read somewhere that Carter has a very high IQ and was involved in the development of the nuclear submarine

Nixon was slick with plenty of street smarts and rumored to play poker throughout his college education

Reagan was a typical Californian..he thought everybody should be rich

nixon was not smart enough to not get caught

gerald ford was not as smart as he thought....hell he could not even beat Carter

LBJ married well and ladybird was a great asset to him ..Johnson was no genius but no dummy either..LBJ like a few drinks once in a while I heard

JFK was very smart and a great orator..and a ladies man

but JFK was not smart enough to tell his brother leave the mobsters alone

so smart to stupid since 1960

1. Obuma
2. Clinton
3. Kennedy
4. Carter
5. Johnson
6. big bush
7. Biden
8. Reagan
9. Ford
10.little bush
and Trump being the most ignorant

trump could not even beat Biden

 

When I was in school (in the sixties and seventies) it seemed that we had to take a standardized test of one type or another every year. Though they didn’t give an IQ they did provide a national ranking. They gave one a sense of one’s relative intelligence, compared to other Americans one’s age.

 

Poor schools and IQ are two different concepts. Schooling has to do primarily with information, not with the innate ability to process information. It is well-known that there are very smart people who never formally attended school, as well as dumb people who have attended school and diligently worked hard and graduated.

It is true though, that given enough information, if you can't process it, chances are that your IQ is low. Also, success in the more challenging modalities of superior education like what is needed to succeed in elite schools in the fields of engineering, science, Law, and Medicine, does correlate with high IQ. In another thread I linked to a study showing the average IQ for all professions, from janitors (lowest) to medical doctors (highest, closely followed by lawyers, engineers, and scientists, so the brain surgeon and rocket scientist sayings do have an anchor in reality).

According to this source, the average IQ in the US is 98, very close to the standardized tests' average.

https://www.healthline.com/health/average-iq

According to this source, the country with the highest average IQ is Singapore at 108, which I find credible (they are very science-oriented there), in a tie with Hong Kong (which is not really a country). The United States did not make the top 15, which are:

Hong Kong* - Singapore - South Korea - China - Japan - Taiwan* - Iceland - Macau* - Switzerland - Austria - Lichtenstein - Luxembourg - Netherlands - Norway - UK

* not really countries, or disputed

 

When considering average IQ’s of a population, I sometimes get a chuckle. I used to know a Jewish fellow who was fond of pointing out that Ashkenazi Jews were the smartest people in the world because they had an average IQ of 106. Yet a person with an IQ of 106 would be highly unlikely to get admitted to any college of consequence. Same with an IQ of 108. It is still just average.

When one looks at how the world works, a few people do all the intellectual and creative heavy lifting. Everyone else just follows along. The average person does not have to be all that bright. Just go with the crowd, as most do, and you’ll do just fine. And if you fail, you will have plenty of company, softening the blow.

 

I hope you do understand that the data I linked to are averages. So if a country has an average of 108, that means that enough people with IQs way higher than that are pushing up the average (and/or not enough people pulling it down by scoring way lower than that), as opposed to a country with an average of 98, where there aren't enough people scoring way higher than that to push the average to 108 (and/or with enough people scoring lower than that, dragging the average down). Singapore having a 10-point average difference from the United States does indicate that their people are smarter than ours, *on average*.

 

I went to 13 different public schools in 12 years (military family... moved around a lot). My score, for two IQ tests I remember, was about the same as the one you had for Al Gore. No easy access to those records now... it's been a hell of a long time....

I'm not thinking Biden necessarily has a low IQ... I merely wondered if anyone knew what it is....

Now, seeing how everything is 'progressing' since the inauguration, I'm even much more interested in what Kamala's IQ is.

As I see it, Joe's merely 'warming the chair' for her, anyway -- and he may leave office a little more than a year from now. Call it my "gut-hunch"....

 

He's a stable genius, just the way you like it.

 

For some reason, I.Q. has become rejected by some segments as no longer valuable. It definitely can serve as an indicator on many levels, even if it doesn't cover everything. The refusal to recognize that is another example of ideology denying science.

 

Don't know where this came from, but it is possible.

 

I wonder who has the greater IQ, Joe Biden, or the Jamaican Voodoo Brainiac Queen!

(Shown here computing to a trillion decimal-places -- in her HEAD!)

 

There's been across different threads, all this talk that "Hidin' Biden" is demented and won't do a press conference so that it doesn't get evident. Well, guess what, a press conference has been scheduled for this Thursday. If Biden does well with no trace of dementia like I expect him to do (given that I've seen him in debates and town halls), I wonder how many PF posters will need suicide watch. Well, of course, they will move the goalposts and say that he is pumped full of some sort of mythical and magical cocktail of anti-dementia drugs, despite the fact that there are no drugs known to Medicine that would achieve this spectacular effect, their action being modest at best and more related to delaying the progression of dementia rather than actually making people recover from it.

 

Agreed with the right wing anti-science thing, but as a matter of fact the left wing is also to blame, since it is now politically incorrect to refer to low national IQ averages in African countries. Of course I don't take them literally given that many of these tests are geared towards Western culture and relay to some degree on test-taking abilities and some education (although they shouldn't; level of education and IQ are not necessary overlapping characteristics like I've explained already), but the sheer fact that African nations have shown a low average IQ made of IQ tests the object of left-wing attacks, too.

The same study I referred to, above, found as bottom nations:

93. Kenya (as well as Namibia, South Africa, Tanzania) (72)

94. Zimbabwe (72)

95. Botswana (71)

96. Ghana (71)

97. Zambia (71)

98. Nigeria (69)

99. Swaziland (68 )

100. Lesotho (67)

101. Mozambique (64)

102. Malawi (60)

 

IQ measures the ability to learn.

 

Lol...no wonder you people lost the election.

 

In general, the difference in I.Q. must be greater than 10 in order to be judged significantly higher or lower. This is why the relatively small difference between African populations and others is not important. The major point is that, in any group, the highest and lowest are the same and any group is capable of producing examples of the highest order. "Race" is not important. Unfortunately, numbers being what they are, liars figure out how to use them in ways that ultimately work to discredit them.

 

The average global temperature has been rising over the last several decades. Yet when one looks closely at the numbers, one sees that the Earth is not getting warmer as much as it is cooling less. The highs aren't any higher. It is the lows that are rising, causing the average to rise. The significant rise in general intelligence over the past century in the US has more to do with increases in nutritional awareness than anything else. That is to say that Americans have not become smarter, it is just that there are less with nutritionally caused deficiencies. The whole healthy bodies, healthy minds concept. In those Sub-Saharan African countries that are so often cited for their low average intelligence, they are also countries that face chronic starvation. Children who grow up hungry, never fully develop their potential. Intelligence is higher in developed countries because their children tend to eat better.

While it is common to see articles relating IQ to this or that, such IQ information is not readily available. I am quite sure that the vast majority of people have no idea of what their IQ might be. No idea. I have repeatedly run into people who insist that they have an IQ in the 150 range who come off as not all that bright to me. I have no independent way of assessing one's IQ. Or even a group of people. Other than from these articles that I always find suspect, and can not be independently verified. Which makes them unscientific. However there is another very reliable measurement. And that is educational attainment. One of the great things about our educational system is it acts as a filter. It weeds out the bad eggs - as the system tends to encourage them to drop out. Colleges of any value have a selection process by which they decide which students are worthy of their school. The better the school, typically the more difficult it is to get into. Not everyone who attends a college graduates. A lot of people who begin, never graduate. Once graduated, there is graduate school where one can go on to earn a masters or doctorate degree. At each level, there are those who are filtered out.

Although it is an imperfect scale, there being highly educated people who don't appear to be all there and poorly educated individuals who are natural geniuses, it is a rather reliable one, on average. Thus we have the scale.

1. no high school diploma
2. high school diploma, no college
3. high school diploma. some college
4. junior college / technical school graduate
5. college graduate
6. advanced degree

Thus, it can be said, quite reliably, that the higher the density of college graduates in one's neighborhood the more likely one is to have an intelligent neighbor, and the more successful one's neighbor is likely to be. Using this scale, one can find reliable data for every state, county, city, and neighborhood in America. Using this data one can reliably correlate the local conditions of every jurisdiction in America.

 

I live now in Africa and I've known people that are highly intelligent but would do poorly on IQ tests because they are almost always culturally invalid. Take me, I had three growing up, 1st, 5th and 9th grades. 182, 157 and 165. I've met many here in Africa far more intelligent than I am that would likely fail miserably IQ tests. Am I that smart? I don't see it, I did when I was a kid but not anymore as I've met many, many far smarter people and I've met many fools with high IQs. Most states have eliminated general IQ testing because nobody could write a fair one. Tests for specific issues exist but an IQ test? Not anymore.

 

Wow this is so meaningless. My favourite part is when they produce the number of the IQ to the hundredth (oh my god, they are even more accurate than the test itself!!)
This is like the size of the chinese emperor's nose fable: No one has ever seen the emperor. To get an answer, scientists ask every single person in china to answer the question how long the emperor's nose is. They then tabulate using the data from 1 billion people to get the most accurate answer ever.
A shorter version is TITO: Trash In, Trash Out.
I can't beleive that this is a real study. ( a quick look seems to indicate that it is)
A shame and a farce.

 

Through circumstances beyond my own control I never completed a full high school diploma and never went to college as an undergrad either.

However about a decade after high school I was accepted into an Advanced Degree program because of the skill set I had acquired in computer technology and was subsequently awarded the Advanced Degree having completed the entire program with a B average. There were others in the same program with all of the prerequisites who dropped out because they could not meet the standards of the program.

This confirms your scale in a roundabout way given that had my earlier circumstances been different I would probably have achieved all of the steps in that order. Instead I took a different path but still ended up in the same place eventually. Intelligence finds a way to overcome obstacles that stymie those without the ability to overcome them.

 

Partly but also because the tests are far too cultural. Being culturally relevant is pretty much impossible here just as it is across the US. One state, California, eliminated them because an Hispanic child had English as a 2nd language and scored poorly on the IQ test. She was always put in the "slow" classes because of that test. She graduated high school despite being "slow". She got into college because California has an open admissions policy but she was on probation because she was "educably retarded" . Semester after semester she made deans list. Semester after semester she was on probation. She graduated with honors while still on probation. She launched the movement in California to do away with IQ tests as a foundation for educational decisions. Good on her.

 

You still believe in IQ testing ? Believing in IQ testing is a sign of diminished intellectual capacity. Don’t go there.