http://christianity.about.com/od/whatdoesthebiblesay/a/angelsbible.htm Notice the mentions in the Bible about angels. They existed before the creation of the earth. Sounds a lot like the type of structure you see in many of the ancient religions around at the time. Remember, Jews had to deal with the plurality of religions in the region when they decided that there was really only one supreme God.
tsk tsk. Your answer was 2 words with a period. Not a complete sentence or suggestion. Perhaps if you put a ? at the end, it may have been looked at as a suggestion.
Placing on me the burden of making a purchase of a book in order to ascertain the truth of your claim. You seem to be promoting the sale of this book. How much of a kick-back do you get for each sale proffered by your promotional activities?
You are like a teenager in many respects. If you are interested in the subject, read a book on it. Until then, your posts add nothing and reveal no knowledge of the subject material. As with other attempts by you to engage in adult conversation, this one falls flat.
Or have they even attempted to make such a prayer request? Do you want to dare playing the game of God by presuming to know what all those people in the past 3000 years have laid before God in prayer form?
Hello. (That is also a complete sentence and it only has one word.) So much for your understanding of English grammar (American style).
What's an angel?....as I noted on another thread... it's one of Santa's elves.... with wings. Or it might be a hot Irish chick? ((Roma's older...but still got it going on. ))
Hard to say. We have confirmed that souls that asscend to heaven are not angels. We are told they were created beforehand. Its reasonable to assume that angels are simply souls created by god, and have the ability to project themselves in different forms.
Reasonable? That sentence, as described, lacks any and all reason. How did you come to that 'reasonable' conclusion?
Noticing that you placed a question mark after the term "reasonable", I am going to intentionally interpret that to mean that you are asking for some background information on "reasonable". 'Reasonable': rea•son•a•ble (ˈri zə nə bəl, ˈriz nə adj. 1. agreeable to or in accord with reason; logical. Well that didn't help because it brings up the question 'what is reason'; so let us go in that direction. Reason: rea·son (rē′zən)n.1. The basis or motive for an action, decision, or conviction. IMHO, I think he made a clear and concise statement... Remember, it is permissible for anyone to assume anything...
While English may be the 3rd language I learned, I'm quite familiar with the word reasonable. Now while you may get your jollies from pissing contests over the definitions of words, it's not my thing and I'm not going to get into that nonsense with you. I'm asking a different poster how he came to that 'logical' conclusion, as it would seem to me that all logic is thrown out the window with a statement like the one he made. I'm asking him/her, not you, so if you wouldn't mind go play with Webster and leave me to my unanswered question directed at another poster.
Well, first of all, you did not mention "logical conclusion" ... I believe the word you used was "reasonable". As for you lack of desire to be precise in your choice of words, that is up to you also,... however, definitions are the very foundation of logic.
The very definition of reasonable that you provided says "logical". And if you didn't take the hint the first time, I'm not interested in your pissing contest. Go play your games with someone else.
What is there to reason? I am simply giving my understanding on the text of the bible. Nothing fallacious about it. We have times where god says angels were created before man, and we already know all beings have souls, from most philosophers (and Christ himself). Therefore, it is reasonable to assume angels are an entity unlike man, yet similar in the fact they have souls. Please expain where you found anything fallacious in the above statement? I would be interested in knowing. .
Seemingly you have a problem using the dictionary. First comes the word, then the pronunciation keys; then comes the status of the word in grammar; then comes the numerical listing of the definitions. In each of those definitions, the definition portion will end with a semi-colon and the word(s) after the semi-colon are examples of how the word can be used.... not necessarily a definition of the term itself. Games!!! Not hardly. I take the meaning of words very seriously. I am certain that there are a few people on this forum who will attest to my fascination and an almost obsession with definitions. So, as a member of this forum... deal with it.
Angels are thoughts that come to us from outside our own Conscious mind. They are ancient memories and even ideas. They speak to us from sources inside our Subconscious mind, and, now and again, from the resources of the Unconscious mind. The Unconscious mind contains a record of all the past experiences of the lives we have lead before. We have no direct access into that memory bank now. But the day is coming when men will remember previous lives as if dreams they can recall.
Thoughts come to you from sources like your Libido, for instance. We call the messages "urges, drives, desires, etc." But they are ancient messages experienced by people who lived before us. People acted much more readily to those "ideas" that presented themselves then. And people had no hint that he messages had such sources. The devil made me do it is all very true.
Luke 17:20-21: Once, having been asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, "The kingdom of God does not come with your careful observation, nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the kingdom of God is within you." 1) Lucifer = ............... Id 2) Satan =........ ...........Libido 3) Mammon = ............ Ego 4) Devil = .................. Anima 5) Beelzebub = .......... Self 6) False Prophet =.......Superego 7) False Shepherd = ... Harmony The Good Shepherd = ...Conscience
First, let me address you by saying I'm not a Christian, so when you say things like "we know all beings have souls", you're speaking for yourself. I believe nothing of the sort. Now that we've got that out of the way, do you now understand why I think your explanation is jibberish? You may as we'll have quoted the movie "Constantine" or "meet Joe Black" as your reasonable explanations of Angels.
Forgive me, although most scientists and philosophers that I know by name recognize their existence. Great minds as secular as Cicero and Socrates have said that souls do exist. Whether they go to the after life or not, is not the point. Metaphysics demands the dropping of all prior knowledge, so that conclusions must be drawn from scratch. Your essence is your soul, at barest definition. Therefore, everyone has a soul. Ad-hominen is not an actual explanation on why it's fallacious. Please, enlighten me on how making an educated guess based on biblical and philosophical reference disproves my theory? I simply made a logical conclusion that angels are souls, like all beings. Don't attack me, but answer my questions like a man next time. Thanks!
Its troubling the English word, "soul," has been used in ways that do not correspond to the Hebrew word "nesphseh" nor to the Greek Bible, where "psyke'" was used. Today, readers would understand how our psyche is what was being referred to by the Bible writers. We ALL have a triade collection of one mind, broken down into a conscious mind, Subconscious mind, and Unconscious mind. The Subconscious and the Unconscious minds are genetically reproduced when we are born again into the world. We consciously have not been able to interact with them, so we have had to wait to discover their existence.
So, I'm curious. What sort of evidence do these scientists and philosophers offer to substantiate their claim of the existence of human souls? I'm not particularly swayed by an appeal to authority, when the referenced authority is merely stating an unsubstantiated opinion.
